Why the Chinese suck at MMA

many bullshits in this article, china aren't good at mma because this sports existed since just a few years in this country

Why have Chinese fighters failed to find success at prize fighting and what is it that makes Chinese people “different” than other Asian fighters?
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who are from the other asian fighters? Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, India? ... only Korea, Japan the ex soviet republic and the Phillipines have most successful fighters than China in Asia
 
i think that article makes some decent points, but it's missing a lot of stuff (maybe just because it was written a while ago).

chinese mma has been changing a lot over the last few years. more and more gyms and organizations are popping up, and grappling is an increasingly large part of the game in china. the sport there is growing just like it did everywhere else, it's just a little behind (for all kinds of reasons).

and ji xian certainly isn't the only prospect in china, nor is CTT the best and most successful team in china.
 
Never have I've seen an article with so many good points mixed in with so many absurd and stupid points. I almost get the feeling that the writer was under the assumption that all Chinese people are ants living under a hive-mind.

10. History Proves Chinese Used Their Brains To Fight, Not Their Fists
The Chinese invented at least 7 revolutionary things including paper, printing, gun powder / bombs, early irrigation techniques, compass, the repeating crossbow (the sub machine gun of their times), the “rocket launcher” that launched a salvo of arrows (the wasp as they call it), amongst many other amazing things too long to list here.

The Chinese were the first to really sail the seas with gigantic fleets, reaching Africa and North America sooner than Christopher Columbus ever did, but instead of committing mass genocide against the native Indians and forcing unwilling populations to conform to their religion, they instead returned to China (because China had everything anyways) after trading with foreigners peacefully.

Sun Tzu Art of War

Chinese people used their brains. They were not barbarians, but were strategists. I’m sure you have heard of The Art of War by Sun Tzu by now. That’s just one example, albeit the most famous one, in western society. Chinese people’s way of fighting was to win without fighting. Thus, in a pure one on one contest, they were rarely tested.
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This is like saying that if you meet a Norwegian today, he will rape you, 100% every time, beacuse his ancestor 1000 years ago was a Viking.

Not to mention the inumerable brutal, bloody, meat-grinder wars that have been fought by the Chinese. We're they using those big, juicy brains to avoid conflict then?

When they say “Asian”, what they really mean is “Chinese”. This is not a jab at Koreans or Japanese. All Asian parents are equally strict, but there are slight differences. As far as I know, Chinese culture is the only one that literally revolves around money. Who else gives out lucky red pocket (lai see / hong bao) money every Chinese New Years? There’s Christmas and the exchange of gifts… but that’s not the same thing as giving away straight cash… and what makes money again?

Sure as hell not fighting.

Ask any Asian. Which subject / occupation did their parents want them to study, and who are they now? They are probably involved in one of the following fields:

1. Doctor / Dentist / Health / Medicine
2. Scientist / Engineer
3. Law
4. Business / Entrepreneur / Real Estate / Finance / Accounting
5. IT / Computers

If you tried to study anything else… you were a loser. Abandoned. Kicked out. Neglected, unloved child. Disowned. Or maybe you were semi-supported, but were still forced to go to university, even though that you knew you would benefit much more from a hands-on college program. Many Asian kids are forced to study what their parents told them to study, but end up doing what they want to do anyways, often (again) a few years behind their peers who started before them. If you failed at it, you’d be constantly teased by your parents, comparing you to other Chinese parents and how successful “their” kids were.

This is a very Chinese problem that is unique to Chinese people and culture. Choosing to become a fighter? Damn near unfathomable.

Slightly Off-Topic: Similarly in Japanese culture, if you did something shameful or brought shame to the family, you would never be forgiven. This is why there is such a high suicide rate in Japan because they have trouble dealing with forgiveness and redemption. Takanori Gomi himself was disowned by his father when he told him he wanted to pursue fighting. His last name Gomi means “trash”, and wasn’t even his real last name.
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Well geez! Don't you think social shunning could produce a Chinese Gomi, instead of automatically eliminating them from becoming Mixed martial artists? I mean, it worked with Gomi, and about a bilion other MMA fighter who had rough upbringings.

It also works under the assumption that "every" Chinese family is going to behave in a fanatical manner like this. A culture is an pile of individuals. You may see tendancies, yet there is always people who go against the grain. Are every American alike? Every German? Every Russian? Sweden is one of the most pacifistic counteries on earth, yet has produced a slew of good talent. China is 1.3 bilion individuals. Only a fraction of those have to go against the grain in a certain way to produce a talent pool of potential fighters.
 
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Some good points in a lot of bullsh*t.

Is a niche sport even there, that's the main reason.
China had olympic gold medals in Judo, Taekwondo, Wrestling and Boxing, MMA simply is probably the #53 most diffused sport in China.

And at least they've fighters in UFC and they had fighters in WEC, what to say about Lithuania and Georgia that even they produced good fighters when MMA were big in Japan?

EDIT: or about big populations India, Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria, ... China has more high level fighters than them. Simply they don't give a shit about MMA.
 
TLDR, They thought they were top shit at hand to hand combat with their own martial arts untill MMA came along and proved them wrong. Now they are too stubborn to embrace MMA.
 
Number 10 explains why we Germans suck at MMA...the land of the poets and thinkers, you know?
 
Allidoiswin said:
TLDR, They thought they were top shit at hand to hand combat with their own martial arts untill MMA came along and proved them wrong. Now they are too stubborn to embrace MMA.
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most chinese did those martial arts for good health. mma is a bunch of fighting styles sports mixed together, some countries prefer to keep the purity of a sport and not lose the traditional way of it. traditional sports are never going away they are entertaining when it comes to competitions. almost every olympic sport is a traditional sport.
 
That Purity shit is the reason why Bjj and MMA had to come along and wipe the slate of martial arts clean .In breed animals are full of disorders and problems and Martial arts that only spar soft and do it nicely amongst their circle have glaring loopholes and inadequacies that are killing the traditional schools and it's a shame
 
Did not do as thorough research as most of the other zany explanations but have some spare time so will offer some ideas.

Chinese in general do not pursue MMA due to use of Kanji.

Since MMA is a roman character abbreviation does not appear in fortune cookies so unlikely for someone to be inspired to pursue. Kanji also requires a lot more effort to memorize so Chinese are busy studying thousands of kanji and conjugation leaving less time for MMA.

While this may contradict with the Japanese who also use kanji, a possible differentiation Fortune cookies are associated with Chinese.

Another random thought, except for Forest Gump, Westerners tend to suck at Ping Pong while Chinese dominate, with Japan usually second. Seems being good at Ping Pong coincidentally correlates to use of Kanji. Like most things require lots of practice to do well. Ping Pong tables much cheaper to train too.

Chinese also like mahjong, which is a fun friendly social competition. Imagine your friends and family wanting to do a social activity. Choosing between a memory tile game or beating the crap out if each other.



Gomi = 五味 - five + flavor/taste.while sounds same as word for garbage in Japanese , there are many words with same sounds in Japanese but different meanings, kanji helps differentiate but the use of a name in communications is much different than say garbage so generally ignorant foreigners get confused.
 
While the development of MMA in China has been slow, there are a handful of fighters ready for international competition.

China Top Team's Li JingLiang just earned a hard-fought decision victory at UFC 173, and although other Chinese fighters have floundered in the UFC, Li looks to have a bright future ahead of him.

Here's more on Li JingLiang and MMA in China: http://fightland.vice.com/blog/li-jingliang-wins-big-for-china
 
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