What's from this?
To what powerlifting is closer; to body building or olympic lifting?
Who might be faster?
Well I should not say I don't lift but there are other ways to train durability that involve weights but are not really conventional (hand strength) and Power lifting is being powerful in the sport of lifting not necessarily transferable to combat sports.
Hand strength - my dad used to make me do this when I was young for hockey and it is one of the best ways in my opinion to get that hand strength and durability needed for punching repeatedly.
Genetics.But how could old-school Boxers look like lifters then? Is it all steroids?
personally, id go with some clean and jerk. it will build a lot of strength, but it requires flexibility and is as much about speed as strength. the drive will come from your hips and legs, which translated to throwing punches, and sports in general
To try and find a better way than boxers have done for hundreds of years and by no means is this impossible but its highly unlikely.
Boxing such an old sport the money thats in and been in boxing the best ways to train and what to do have been tried and tested and hasnt changed all that much in the last 50 years.
That's irrelevant since boxing does not test itself against other sports, and when it does, it tends to fall short.
There are pros and cons I see incorporating powerlifting into boxing. The pros in theory would be better punch resistance and Increased strength late in matches. The cons would be potential muscle intrution into well etablished bodymechanics
^ Yeah pretty much. I think Sinister made some posts how training extenders and flexors IIRC is congruent with sports like boxing, and that may be more ideal when it comes to adding power to a punch. But honestly lifts like powerclean and squats are going to do so much for your shoulder girdle and hips that I think they shouldn't be discounted. I can throw a mean left hook and rear straight once I learned proper form (just recently) and outside the natural power in these movements with hip rotation I attribute that to muscle memory of athleticism from running, basketball, and lifting, probably with lifting being the main factor but also a "looseness" achieved from the others. There is also the unique bodymechanics of the individual that suggests a tailored workout depending on a person's strengths and weaknesses would be ideal. I tend to be strong at pulling motions with my arms and pushing motions with my legs, but weaker at pushing with my arms for bench (though I'm quite good at dips.) I wouldn't doubt that cable exercises to build explosive power in my pecs and shoulders traps and back could improve my punching power because it is a weaker area for me. But, since i technically have done motions to build those muscles up in the past, why not just shadowbox, instead?
*tooWhy do you comment on something your to lazy to read?
Why do you comment on something you're too lazy to read?
Maybe because its such a controversial topic? Maybe because ive read similar arguments in books and other articles in the past? Call it gut instinct.
Well I read it and it was overall very contradictory. "LIFTING WEIGHTS WON'T INCREASE PUNCHING POWER." Then "LIFTING MIGHT INCREASE PUNCHING POWER".
I think tacos post pretty much covers it. For me I consider mma as part of the equation too and I don't think anyone is going to argue that lifting won't be a nice accessory to your wrestling.
The real take away from the article and the topic is if you're going to lift weights it should be secondary to your training. Which I doubt anyone can argue with, unless your focus is to become stronger versus being a better boxer.
If you want to learn the best punching you do boxing training nothing comes close to the punching power and punching speed than boxing.
REASON #1 – Punching is a snapping motion, NOT a pushing motion
Lifting weights is a PUSHING MOTION.
Can you argue against this point?
Your legs will get taken out punching like a boxer in a setting involved low kicks, which is why they throw more stiff arm punches in Muay Thai.
Anyway, lifting does not mean you should change your technique. if it does do that then that's obviously a potential problem.