Why people say "if Izzy ko'd Alex, imagine what X fighter with more ko power would do with him!!".

[Mulletenthusiast]

Look, lads. That is a very bad argument. The WORST matchup for Alex, in striking, isn't power punches, it's fast guys. He haves an amazing timing, rolls with the punches and counters very well, if you try to power punching him, there is a good probability that he will KO you. look at this video, he is having way more problems with the faster and lighter fighter(that sparring starts around 5min). Look at his two loses that he got finished. One was Izzy (very light and fast fighter) another one was with Artur a very fast fighter as well.

 

[filthybliss]

I mean there is more to striking than just having fists of dynamite. Otherwise, Roy Nelson would of been a top 5 HW ever.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Alex was also very reckless against Israel in the second (MMA) fight, that's not the norm for him.

 

[laleggenda27]

Strange thread. I haven't seen a single person make this argument. Who exactly are you debating, TS?

 

[Portland8242]

Trust me I tried convincing a lot of dipshits who were picking Jamahal Hill because of this exact same thing but they didn't listen.

There was a poster who posted side by side videos of Jamahal and Izzy throwing a similar switch stance right hand and claimed Jamahal could KO Poatan because of it, except you could literally see that Izzy has twice the handspeed of Hill.

 

[kingofthecans]

I mean there is more to striking than just having fists of dynamite. Otherwise, Roy Nelson would of been a top 5 HW ever.

His number 1 in our hearts and our bellies.

 

[Mulletenthusiast]

Strange thread. I haven't seen a single person make this argument. Who exactly are you debating, TS?

Oh, god. Of course there is. Remember with Jahamal? Even DC said so (ok, i know Hill is his boy). But, anways, i think people never notice that to get Alex, you need to be super fast. However, i see a lot " he has a sus chin, i think X fighter with punching power will put him to sleep. i mean, he got flatlined by Adesayna". Am i saying that is impossible for Jiri to pull a punch from his ARSE and Ko Alex? Of course not, but that would be very unlikely.

 

[Yep]

Bee cuz

 

[achoo42]

All the more reason why Aspinall is a horrible matchup for Pereira. Even on the feet.

 

[sonofjay817]

Look, lads. That is a very bad argument. The WORST matchup for Alex, in striking, isn't power punches, it's fast guys. He haves an amazing timing, rolls with the punches and counters very well, if you try to power punching him, there is a good probability that he will KO you. look at this video, he is having way more problems with the faster and lighter fighter(that sparring starts around 5min). Look at his two loses that he got finished. One was Izzy (very light and fast fighter) another one was with Artur a very fast fighter as well.

....not to mention the fact that severely dehydrating ones's self to make weight makes one much more prone to getting knocked out.

 

[laleggenda27]

Oh, god. Of course there is. Remember with Jahamal? Even DC said so (ok, i know Hill is his boy). But, anways, i think people never notice that to get Alex, you need to be super fast. However, i see a lot " he has a sus chin, i think X fighter with punching power will put him to sleep. i mean, he got flatlined by Adesayna". Am i saying that is impossible for Jiri to pull a punch from his ARSE and Ko Alex? Of course not, but that would be very unlikely.

Show me examples of people saying Alex has a suspect chin.

 

[Mulletenthusiast]

Show me examples of people saying Alex has a suspect chin.

Poatan has a BIG chance of being brutally finished. Hill is level above anyone he fought till this point and his most dangerous matchup - size, power, technique and style all together. Poatan only has one way in which he can finish this fight, Hill has multiple. Not only that, Poatan has suspect chin which cannot whitstand what Hill can offer. People calling this an easy job are delusional or too big of a fans.

Remember, there are only 2 fights in Alex’s UFC career in which he looked good and in one of them he displayed all the same problems with his defense and got brutally finished (Izzy 2). Other one is a completely still opponent who was significantly smaller than him (Strickland). Other than that, he always looks like a mediocre fighter who relies on his power to bail him out. This could be a rude awakening for many. I am not saying he cannot win, all I am saying he shouldn’t be a favorite in any scenario, barring the one in which Hill’s injury is much worse than we thought.

If he goes out by glancing blows from a natural MW who could fight at WW I don't wanna know what happens if he takes shots from a LHW who's known for his KO power.

People say Pereira has Deontay Wilder power, but I don't think so. Wilder fights people much bigger and heavier than him and one shots them with short punches. Pereira fights people half his size and former WWs and still fails to fully put them away.

That means he can't hurt iron chin Hill, but Hill can hurt him without breaking a sweat.

Lol Anderson dismantles Izzy.



Alex? A harder stylistic match-up for him, but prime Anderson had a significantly better chin and more power than Izzy, who just put Pereira to sleep.

I found those messages doing a very superficial search on the Sherdog. But, yes, there is a lot of that.

 

[chinarice]

I found those messages doing a very superficial search on the Sherdog. But, yes, there is a lot of that.

I bet you could find far more posts of Sherdog saying Izzy was going to go 0-4 and wouldn't beat Pereira in their last and most relevant fight.

Hell, I bet you'd find 10x more.

 

[RemyR]

Not exactly an Izzy fan but it's a pretty low IQ take to think he doesn't have punching power

 

[Brigfa2]

Trust me I tried convincing a lot of dipshits who were picking Jamahal Hill because of this exact same thing but they didn't listen.

There was a poster who posted side by side videos of Jamahal and Izzy throwing a similar switch stance right hand and claimed Jamahal could KO Poatan because of it, except you could literally see that Izzy has twice the handspeed of Hill.

Herb dean fault so that doesn't count!

 

[HHJ]

All the more reason why Aspinall is a horrible matchup for Pereira. Even on the feet.

And that id he doesnt opt to blast double him to the mat.

 

[HHJ]

Look, lads. That is a very bad argument. The WORST matchup for Alex, in striking, isn't power punches, it's fast guys. He haves an amazing timing, rolls with the punches and counters very well, if you try to power punching him, there is a good probability that he will KO you. look at this video, he is having way more problems with the faster and lighter fighter(that sparring starts around 5min). Look at his two loses that he got finished. One was Izzy (very light and fast fighter) another one was with Artur a very fast fighter as well.

Poatan has no chill. Even when he's hurt he keeps trying to come forward when he should try to recover. When Izzy knocked him out, that first punch that rocked him, he shoudl have backed off, but he tried to walk through it and thats when he got finished.

 

[jx820]

I think a lot of people are overlooking the possibility that Alex was cutting WAY too much at MW and was probably not at his most durable or performing his best in those fights.

IMO he's a much better fit for LHW.

 

[Iroh]

Who is saying that?

 

[Iroh]

I found those messages doing a very superficial search on the Sherdog. But, yes, there is a lot of that.

Why not just respond to those guys if you actually want to discuss the subject with someone that holds that stance? Instead of making a thread on the subject.
Because I don't think that's a very prevalent opinion on here and finding 3 posts from not really regular posters doesn't convince me it is a prevalent opinion. Also, why focus on the dumb shit? Especially dumb shit from the Hill fight? It's best to just leave the dumb things in the past, IMO.