Why I've Got Cormier > Jones

['Rocky']

I'm really not one to criticize PED users too much. I'd rather all fighters took some moderate form of PEDs so their bodies can heal properly. After all, they are pushing their bodies to abormal human potential. But as it is, we have D.C., who takes nothing. And Jones, who takes the deep dark shit.

Decent first fight, 3-2 or 4-1 for Jones, but neither guy dominated and it was a close fight. The second fight was just about all D.C. from the beginning. He hit Jones with everything but the kitchen sink and was well on his way to dominating a roided out Jones. If Jones were clean in this fight, he would not have had the stamina, he would not have had the ability to take Cormier's shots, nor would he have had the strength to hit D.C. with that high kick with anywhere near enough force to put him away.

A clean, prime Jones will lose to the current 40-year-old, D.C.. D.C. is the best fighter on the planet, right now.

 

['Rocky']

I just wish D.C. would've found MMA 10 years before he did. Great representative of the sport.

 

[Otto!]

I just wish D.C. would've found MMA 10 years before he did. Great representative of the sport.

This all day.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

It's clear - he is not a PED abuser and went up and fought HW in the UFC unlike jon.

 

[UFC=Pride]

Well for one thing he passes drug tests

 

[Dbreiden83080]

The first time they fought was DC at his best. He was 35 at his physical and mental peak. Never lost a fight. Jones took him 4-1 and mentally had him broke by round 4. People can hate but DC will never get past the Jones losses. It is what it is..

 

[MrDaneBrass]

Fuck no, Jones has the reach and will be able to eye poke DC before DC can eye poke Jones.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

The first time they fought was DC at his best. He was 35 at his physical and mental peak. Never lost a fight. Jones took him 4-1 and mentally had him broke by round 4. People can hate but DC will never get past the Jones losses. It is what it is..

Jon was also on PeDs the whole time

So maybe he has those wins but DC never had to resort to PEDs to fight and went up and did what jon was not willing to do.

 

[Scott Stapp]

Because the little Boy Scouts on the forum need to feel morally superior, so they gravitate towards fighters who behave like Mormons. That's why DC is GOAT.

 

[JayE]

The first time they fought was DC at his best. He was 35 at his physical and mental peak. Never lost a fight. Jones took him 4-1 and mentally had him broke by round 4. People can hate but DC will never get past the Jones losses. It is what it is..

He seems to have gotten past them quite well, actually.

 

['Rocky']

Because the little Boy Scouts on the forum need to feel morally superior, so they gravitate towards fighters who behave like Mormons. That's why DC is GOAT.

Remember when Jones behaved like a Mormon before being busted for PEDs, cocaine and killing pregnant ladies?

 

[West Linn]

I think we see clearly now why Jones felt he had to take steroids to beat DC. DC is one of the greatest ever and Jones needed the crutch.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

He seems to have gotten past them quite well, actually.

Still can't beat Jones.. 2 chances..

 

[Scott Stapp]

Remember when Jones behaved like a Mormon before being busted for PEDs, cocaine and killing pregnant ladies?

Yeah, and I was saying he doped before he ever got busted.

 

[JayE]

Still can't beat Jones.. 2 chances..

He probably won't. He hasn't had any issue getting past those losses, though. His performances immediately after each loss were outstanding, and his reputation has only gotten better. Jones is a tremendously gifted fighter, but his accomplishments are always going to have an asterisk next to them.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

He probably won't. He hasn't had any issue getting past those losses, though. His performances immediately after each loss were outstanding, and his reputation has only gotten better. Jones is a tremendously gifted fighter, but his accomplishments are always going to have an asterisk next to them.

Jones to me is the saddest story ever in MMA. He beat himself. Nobody else could do it..

 

[JayE]

Jones to me is the saddest story ever in MMA. He beat himself. Nobody else could do it..

I don't find a guy getting caught doping twice to be particularly sad.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

I don't find a guy getting caught doping twice to be particularly sad.

The fuck ups as a whole i find sad.. He is the most gifted fighter of all time..

 

[Steelers4life]

Man I'm a huge Jones fan and a nutrider since the Bonner fight, but DC tonight.... I'm so upset that there is the tainted drug test.

I want a fight to come about. No drug test and a pride contract where both guys no there is no testing. JONES DC. We're doing this is Japan same octagon 5 Million a piece take whatever you can get that you feel makes you better.

Same rules same cage. BJM as ref no commission to interfere

ARE YOU READY, ARE YOU READY LET'S GET IT ON

 

[JayE]

The fuck ups as a whole i find sad.. He is the most gifted fighter of all time..

He's obviously tremendously gifted, PEDs or not, but stamina and strength were a considerable part of what made him a great fighter, and they obviously are areas that are significantly impacted by PEDs. Again, there are real question marks.