Why I Left Fox News

[Greoric]

Is it honest to describe what I've said ITT about CNN (or more generally) as a "defense" in your mind? I guess it doesn't matter to you. But to clarify, it's only your own extreme hackishness that would lead to you to call them a "political hack org." They've become a ratings-seeking news-ish tabloid channel.

Quick! Turn and project! You're such a shallow thinker, friend. Next.

 

[HomerThompson]

And people have rushed into to defend it by ridiculously trying to compare it to CNN.

Exactly.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Quick! Turn and project! You're such a shallow thinker, friend.

Er, OK. You feel angry and scared when your superiors disagree with you, but unless you have something of substance to add, it doesn't need to be reiterated.

 

[Greoric]

Er, OK. You feel angry and scared when your superiors disagree with you, but unless you have something of substance to add, it doesn't need to be reiterated.

That really hit you hard when I advised that you should be more respectful when talking to your intellectual superior huh?

 

[Jack V Savage]

That really hit you hard when I advised that you should be more respectful when talking to your intellectual superior huh?

???

Don't know what you're referring to (or who), but I'll give you the last childish insult. I'm here to discuss issues.

 

[Greoric]

???

!!!

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

You didn't provide any evidence at all of an obsession. You provided evidence that it was mentioned (probably everywhere, really, as that was a weird story and most news sources spent a small portion of a day discussing it).

They are obsessed with Trump in a strange and petty way. I'm sure other networks are the same from time to time, MSNBC doesn't like Trump either and FOX didn't like Obama, but CNN really takes it to another level. The ice cream is one example; there are others.

It's this kind of hackishness that has led to them slipping and MSNBC becoming the second most watched cable news network. MSNBC does a better and more substantial job of being anti-Trump.

 

[Jack V Savage]

They are obsessed with Trump in a strange and petty way. I'm sure other networks are the same from time to time, MSNBC doesn't like Trump either and FOX didn't like Obama, but CNN really takes it to another level. The ice cream is one example; there are others.

The president gets a lot of news coverage, generally. And when he has some really weird personal habits, they get mentioned. If you would prefer less coverage of the president, we disagree. If you'd prefer more substantive coverage, I agree, though if you're running all day, there's only so much material.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

The president gets a lot of news coverage, generally. And when he has some really weird personal habits, they get mentioned. If you would prefer less coverage of the president, we disagree. If you'd prefer more substantive coverage, I agree, though if you're running all day, there's only so much material.

Yep, sometimes there's nothing else to talk about:

I'm glad there are several networks actively confrontational with our sitting president. I think it's healthy. But when I want to hear valid critiques of Trump or his policies, MSNBC is a much better choice than CNN.

I've also heard that Maddow is now the single most watched cable anchor, which has been a FOX anchor for more than a decade. They are doing something right over there, while CNN's ratings are tanking

 

[Jack V Savage]

Yep, sometimes there's nothing else to talk about:

I'm glad there are several networks actively confrontational with our sitting president. I think it's healthy. But when I want to hear valid critiques of Trump or his policies, MSNBC is a much better choice than CNN.

I've also heard that Maddow is now the single most watched cable anchor, which has been a FOX anchor for more than a decade. They are doing something right over there, while CNN's ratings are tanking

Then you should watch MSNBC rather than CNN (it's very possible that you're right that they're doing better critiques though I don't know). I don't care what you watch. I think it's silly to think that CNN is as biased as Fox. CNN's ratings took a huge jump in 2017, and are struggling with tough comps this year. If you're suggesting that TV ratings are the best measure of news quality, I disagree. I also hope that you don't generally think it's good that followers of a politician disbelieve stories from credible organizations simply because those stories appear negative.

BTW, CNN did the same shit with Obama:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2013/09/03/tsr-moos-obama-foot-on-presidential-desk.cnn

You just didn't notice.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

I also hope that you don't generally think it's good that followers of a politician disbelieve stories from credible organizations simply because those stories appear negative.

I explicitly stated the opposite. I think confrontational coverage is healthy. But CNN has beclowned themselves badly vs Trump. They've got the negativity, but lack substance.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

They are obsessed with Trump in a strange and petty way. I'm sure other networks are the same from time to time, MSNBC doesn't like Trump either and FOX didn't like Obama, but CNN really takes it to another level. The ice cream is one example; there are others.

It's this kind of hackishness that has led to them slipping and MSNBC becoming the second most watched cable news network. MSNBC does a better and more substantial job of being anti-Trump.

Bill Clinton's diet was a frequent topic of discussion because it was unhealthy, Trumps diet is deplorable and he's a much older man


The stairs one is silly , not as silly as spicy mustard but definetly silly

 

[Jack V Savage]

Bill Clinton's diet was a frequent topic of discussion because it was unhealthy, Trumps diet is deplorable and he's a much older man

The stairs one is silly , not as silly as spicy mustard but definetly silly

Every unusual thing about every president is covered in 24-hour "news" networks. It's an insane stretch from that fact to bias.

 

[SBJJ]

Nowhere in this Wikileak is CNN demonstrated to be complicit in any fashion with the Clinton campaign.

Do you understand that, or do you actually need us to explain to you what the text in your quote box means?

This constant denial to the obvious is such a bad look

Brazile HAD to get the questions from someone in CNN close to the debate. The debate was a CNN debate with supposedly only a few employees having the questions. Notice we never heard about a CNN investigation into how this happened

If this was FOX news debate with somehow Hannity getting these questions u would be calling for them to be shut down.

Just enough

 

[bobgeese]

This constant denial to the obvious is such a bad look

Brazile HAD to get the questions from someone in CNN close to the debate. The debate was a CNN debate with supposedly only a few employees having the questions. Notice we never heard about a CNN investigation into how this happened

If this was FOX news debate with somehow Hannity getting these questions u would be calling for them to be shut down.

Just enough

LOL


Cnn dindu nuffin!!!

 

[Madmick]

This constant denial to the obvious is such a bad look

Brazile HAD to get the questions from someone in CNN close to the debate. The debate was a CNN debate with supposedly only a few employees having the questions. Notice we never heard about a CNN investigation into how this happened

If this was FOX news debate with somehow Hannity getting these questions u would be calling for them to be shut down.

Just enough

No. It was Roland Martin of TV One; a formerly disgraced and fired CNN employee.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/are...ff-easy-on-their-cnntv-one-town-hall-scandal/

Jesus Christ, how do you not know that? You are one of many posters who wouldn't talk about anything else but that Wikileak for 9 straight months, and yet you're ignorant to who supplied the question. It's mind-boggling how poorly informed you guys are. You guys write the same five words a billion times over and yet you still can't retain all five.

 

[bobgeese]

No. It was Roland Martin of TV One; a formerly disgraced and fired CNN employee.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/are...ff-easy-on-their-cnntv-one-town-hall-scandal/

Jesus Christ, how do you not know that? You are one of many posters who wouldn't talk about anything else but that Wikileak for 9 straight months, and yet you're ignorant to who supplied the question. It's mind-boggling how poorly informed you guys are. You guys write the same five words a billion times over and yet you still can't retain all five.

Another leaked March 12 email that was released Oct. 12 suggested Brazile shared a question with the Clinton campaign ahead of another March debate, which CNN co-hosted with cable network TV One.

The email was titled: "Here's one that worries me about HRC." It asked whether states should abolish the death penalty. The next night at the debate, TV One co-host Roland Martin asked the same question – the wording, spacing and capitalization identical to Brazile's email.


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Roland may have asked the question, however it was Donna who gave Hill the question.


But don’t let facts get in the way...

 

[Madmick]

="bobgeese, post: 139934031, member: 380501"]Another leaked March 12 email that was released Oct. 12 suggested Brazile shared a question with the Clinton campaign ahead of another March debate, which CNN co-hosted with cable network TV One.

The email was titled: "Here's one that worries me about HRC." It asked whether states should abolish the death penalty. The next night at the debate, TV One co-host Roland Martin asked the same question – the wording, spacing and capitalization identical to Brazile's email.


...


Roland may have asked the question, however it was Donna who gave Hill the question.


But don’t let facts get in the way...

Her email was delivered to Palmieri, not Martin.
CNN president Jeff Zucker: We have conducted 'complete investigation' into leaks of debate questions

Martin was the one who fed the question to CNN itself as part of the debate partnership (which he then hosted and delivered personally). This was explained in the Mediate link I just posted above:

The following day, Martin — who was co-moderating the debate with Tapper — sent an email to CNN producers with his questions for the debate. The third question was word-for-word the one included in Brazile’s email the day before. Later that evening, Clinton was asked a question on the death penalty.

Let's see if you can piece together the sequence of events.

 

[bobgeese]

Her email was delivered to Palmieri, not Martin.
CNN president Jeff Zucker: We have conducted 'complete investigation' into leaks of debate questions

Martin was the one who fed the question to CNN itself as part of the debate partnership (which he then hosted and delivered personally). This was explained in the Mediate link I just posted above:

Let's see if you can piece together the sequence of events.

This doesn’t this help your argument, at all.


She, a cnn employee, emailed the question to the head of the Clinton campaign in order to unfairly influence the outcome of the democrat primary.

 

[Madmick]

This doesn’t this help your argument, at all.


She, a cnn employee, emailed the question to the head of the Clinton campaign in order to unfairly influence the outcome of the democrat primary.

Concession accepted.