Why haven't Bellator, WSOF, Rizin and One FC partnered up?

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They could easily match the UFC p4p if this happened. Some super cross promotion card with all of the promotions best fighters could easily beat out a UFC card. This needs to happen in the future.
 
WSOF has a strong partnership with the UFC, they are the breeding ground for new/old talent for the UFC.
I believe Rizin and Bellator work together. King Mo fought on the Rizin cards.
 
At the end of the day they are all relatively successful promotions in their own rights... As soon as you start creating super champions the UFC will undoubtedly snatch them up anyway. I like it the way it is...
 
Cause Askren would call out MVP. And we can't have that nonsense.
 
Different CEOs/people in charge with different ideas and different goals for their companies. Althougt I think the WSOF and Bellator have talked with Rizin.

Bokelj said:
WSOF has a strong partnership with the UFC
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Huh? RFA, Legacy FC, and TPF have good relationships with the UFC. I've heard nothing about the WSOF having a partnership with the UFC.
 
because mixing 4 different promotions is just a little harder than making a thread on sherdog. just a bit.
 
Also, Rizin and Bellator have a working relationship.
 
dominicpwalker said:
At the end of the day they are all relatively successful promotions in their own rights... As soon as you start creating super champions the UFC will undoubtedly snatch them up anyway. I like it the way it is...
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I agree, but how can you hit be wistful for the interpromotional matchups of lore?
 
chunglii said:
where's the part about WSOF and the UFC actually having a relationship, other than both CEO's hating Bellator, Dana telling Askren to go to the WSOF, and Dana giving Ray Sefo tickets?
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I don't know. This is the only thing google gives me.
 
chunglii said:
Different CEOs/people in charge with different ideas and different goals for their companies. Althougt I think the WSOF and Bellator have talked with Rizin.


Huh? RFA, Legacy FC, and TPF have good relationships with the UFC. I've heard nothing about the WSOF having a partnership with the UFC.
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I could be wrong, I always considered it to be amicable between the two orgs because they let fighters cross over to the UFC.

Arlovski
Rumble
Burkman
Firmino (competed in TUF)
Aguilar

And ex-UFC fighters fighting for WSOF as a possible way to get back to the UFC.
As I said, could be wrong.
 
Bokelj said:
I could be wrong, I always considered it to be amicable between the two orgs because they let fighters cross over to the UFC.

Arlovski
Rumble
Burkman
Firmino (competed in TUF)
Aguilar

And ex-UFC fighters fighting for WSOF as a possible way to get back to the UFC.
As I said, could be wrong.
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I think it's less of "letting fighters cross over" and more of "The UFC ended it's contracts with these fighters, and the WSOF signed them." Then when Rumble and Arlovski's WSOF contracts ended, they signed with the UFC. I don't think the WSOF and the UFC ever shared these fighters at the same time/on the same contract.

Bellator has a real relationship with Rizin. They loaned King Mo to the Rizin tournament, which he won. RFA, LFC, and TPF act as feeder orgs to the UFC and this is well known.
 
From my understanding of Rizin's plan, They don't want to compete with other promotions, They want to be the platform that organizes the best fights between the fighters of different promotions in a sort of world cup of MMA format or something along those lines & they have working relationship with quite a few different promotions now but I just don't know how successful they can be at that without the participation of the UFC.
 
chunglii said:
I think it's less of "letting fighters cross over" and more of "The UFC ended it's contracts with these fighters, and the WSOF signed them." Then when Rumble and Arlovski's WSOF contracts ended, they signed with the UFC. I don't think the WSOF and the UFC ever shared these fighters at the same time/on the same contract.

Bellator has a real relationship with Rizin. They loaned King Mo to the Rizin tournament, which he won. RFA, LFC, and TPF act as feeder orgs to the UFC and this is well known.
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They have never shared fighters, we are talking about free agents here like you say.

People with their own hidden agendas and crap...lol

Rosholt and Shawn Jordan joined Wsof after their UFC contracts ran out for example...

Sonnen and Mcdonald joined bellator when their contracts ran out.

I don't see anybody saying bellator and UFC are working together ...
 
As soon as I read this, the words "Pro Elite" came to mind.

Quality of fights wise, it can be done. In my opinion, the UFC's deals with Fox, Pay Per View providers, and the brand recognition around the world makes it bullet proof at the moment. In order to draw headline power away from the UFC, they'd need current champions or big names to change loyalties, and I don't believe that UFC legal agreements would let that happen.

ReasonableMMAFan said:
They could easily match the UFC p4p if this happened. Some super cross promotion card with all of the promotions best fighters could easily beat out a UFC card. This needs to happen in the future.
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Shinya aoki's the one fc champ and he fought in the rizin card. I'm not rly sure if they r partnered with rizin as much as bellator r with rizin tho.
 
PunchTheNeckChokeTheFace said:
From my understanding of Rizin's plan, They don't want to compete with other promotions, They want to be the platform that organizes the best fights between the fighters of different promotions in a sort of world cup of MMA format or something along those lines & they have working relationship with quite a few different promotions now but I just don't know how successful they can be at that without the participation of the UFC.
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And that is why it will be such an uphill battle.

Loaning fighters to another org rarely has any upside for the org doing the loaning.
 
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