Why do I dislike Usyk's style so much?

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Every time I've watched Usyk box, I just can't get into it. I get that he's skilled, he's talented, etc. But I just don't like his style at all. I was never a huge fan of Loma either. Maybe I just don't like the Ukraine style of boxing. But it's hard to put a finger on.. anyone else feel this?
 
Every time I've watched Usyk box, I just can't get into it. I get that he's skilled, he's talented, etc. But I just don't like his style at all. I was never a huge fan of Loma either. Maybe I just don't like the Ukraine style of boxing. But it's hard to put a finger on.. anyone else feel this?
some very good fighters just aren't fan friendly. Pernell Whitaker, to me, seemed to be hated by the casual fans in his prime. Arturo Gatti was beloved because he was willing to spill his blood.

There have only been a few fighters who made me feel like you though, I never liked John Ruiz' style. It looked honestly like trying to fight without fighting. Very frustrating watching him, so much so that I always got great joy over watching the fight that made him that way, the Tua fight.

the other fighters are the Brendan Ingle fighters and style, Herol Bomber Graham and Naseem Hamed. It does something to the viewer when we expect to see what we're used to seeing and then we don't, which I've wondered sometimes if that was how Ali looked to older viewers in his prime. I mean, Graham and Naseem had their accomplishments but I never thought the style was valid and I never enjoyed watching it. It looked to me like they were not only confusing their opponents with all that useless motion but also confusing themselves, and them getting their asses handed to them when they did only confirmed that to me. It was a style that was so unpredicatable that they would get hit themselves out of nowhere because they were doing things without a solid purpose.
 
also, although not as annoying, it was odd watching Ricardo Mayorga, one of the most awkward looking fighters I've seen and like other awkward fighters (norton,turpin) they were a nightmare for classic boxers. To a far lesser extent, prime Pacquiao. Just the way those two would throw punches would catch opponents totally off guard. Mayorga would throw a punch after his other hand had just been put out, but he wouldn't pull his shoulder back or anything, looked very amateurish and odd but he had enough power to make it work against some good fighters.
 
Usyk is normally the boxer/mover type that feints a lot but he's also able to just walk guys down (Fury, Dubois, etc) and pressure them relentlessly. He's versatile enough to do either. Which of them don't you like?
 
It depends which Usyk really, prime Usyk that won the Ali trophy and undisputed title at CW I know why you wouldn't like: moving, security first than domination (example Gassiev fight). Hw usyk is the more in your face style, im not saying he has thrown every tactic out of the window but mostly it's pure grit and toughness. Especially in his last two fights Dubois/Fury, I think him being out of his athletic prime has turned him into a brawler.
 
It depends which Usyk really, prime Usyk that won the Ali trophy and undisputed title at CW I know why you wouldn't like: moving, security first than domination (example Gassiev fight). Hw usyk is the more in your face style, im not saying he has thrown every tactic out of the window but mostly it's pure grit and toughness. Especially in his last two fights Dubois/Fury, I think him being out of his athletic prime has turned him into a brawler.
I don't see it as brawling. Usyk was applying educated pressure against Fury from round 1. Against Dubois, aside from that one moment (low blow), he just walked him down and broke him with his pressure.
 
Usyk is normally the boxer/mover type that feints a lot but he's also able to just walk guys down (Fury, Dubois, etc) and pressure them relentlessly. He's versatile enough to do either. Which of them don't you like?
It's something about his movement. It's always seemed kinda awkward/herky jerky to me. The way he has to reset his feet a lot. He has kind of a stiff torso. He relies so much on being fleet of foot for his positioning without as much upper body movement, slipping, bobbing/weaving. He seems to have very little inside game. I mean his style is obviously effective. I'm just trying to figure out why I don't really like it. Maybe I just prefer American style? Idk
 
It's something about his movement. It's always seemed kinda awkward/herky jerky to me. The way he has to reset his feet a lot. He has kind of a stiff torso. He relies so much on being fleet of foot for his positioning without as much upper body movement, slipping, bobbing/weaving. He seems to have very little inside game. I mean his style is obviously effective. I'm just trying to figure out why I don't really like it. Maybe I just prefer American style? Idk
He has a herky-jerky rhythm but so does Fury. It's ugly to watch but effective. Pac had it as well with his constant stutter stepping and abrupt start/stop in & out movement. This awkwardness makes them more unpredictable in their movements which can make them harder to time. I disagree about a lack of upper body movement. Usyk has shown plenty of it. The Joshua rematch for example. He looked like a windshield wiper in there.

However, I do agree that he has very little inside game. He's still strong in the clinch though and knows how to grapple to avoid being leaned on. He was able to consistently push Fury off and completely neutralize that tactic.
 
It's something about his movement. It's always seemed kinda awkward/herky jerky to me. The way he has to reset his feet a lot. He has kind of a stiff torso. He relies so much on being fleet of foot for his positioning without as much upper body movement, slipping, bobbing/weaving. He seems to have very little inside game. I mean his style is obviously effective. I'm just trying to figure out why I don't really like it. Maybe I just prefer American style? Idk
he looks odd in shadow boxing footage to me, very odd but most of the modern fighters do not look right to me at all, not just in their posture but also with their lack of concentration. They'll show footage of them training and they look like they're going in slow motion or without any intent. But.., for the most part, I try not to watch too much because I get dissapointed over where the sport is.
 
he looks odd in shadow boxing footage to me, very odd but most of the modern fighters do not look right to me at all, not just in their posture but also with their lack of concentration. They'll show footage of them training and they look like they're going in slow motion or without any intent. But.., for the most part, I try not to watch too much because I get dissapointed over where the sport is.
His form and posture look great to me. This is an older video of him shadow boxing when he was still at cruiserweight. He's being deliberate with his punches to maintain his technique. Most boxers prioritize speed over technique when they shadow box. It's no wonder their form is so bad.
 
His form and posture look great to me. This is an older video of him shadow boxing when he was still at cruiserweight. He's being deliberate with his punches to maintain his technique. Most boxers prioritize speed over technique when they shadow box. It's no wonder their form is so bad.

It works for him and he's the best heavy right now.
 
It works for him and he's the best heavy right now.
Some guys will shadow box just to work up a sweat. It's a good workout. Others will focus more on refining their technique in front of the mirror or they'll visualize that their opponent is in front of them. The biggest issue is with the first group. They'll just burn themselves out throwing combos at full speed to exercise with little regard to technique. Over time all of those repetitions of incorrect punching will become etched into their muscle memory. I've seen it happen with guys at my own gym.
 
Some guys will shadow box just to work up a sweat. It's a good workout. Others will focus more on refining their technique in front of the mirror or they'll visualize that their opponent is in front of them. The biggest issue is with the first group. They'll just burn themselves out throwing combos at full speed to exercise with little regard to technique. Over time all of those repetitions of incorrect punching will become etched into their muscle memory. I've seen it happen with guys at my own gym.
it's always just been a warmup for me but like anything else, people do it differently. Pacquiao goes threw it like a madman but he's a one off, Tyson was like that when he was young. Ali would do it just like he fought or hit the heavybag for he most part, really loose and relaxed, beautiful (incorrect) technique and bodymechanics.
 
it's always just been a warmup for me but like anything else, people do it differently. Pacquiao goes threw it like a madman but he's a one off, Tyson was like that when he was young. Ali would do it just like he fought or hit the heavybag for he most part, really loose and relaxed, beautiful (incorrect) technique and bodymechanics.
Yeah it serves more than one purpose. Many fighters just like to do it all flashy in front of the camera. I remember the first time I watched my friend shadow box. I asked him to go all out. He wasn't breathing properly, or at all really, since he was a complete novice. Anyway he ended up exhausting himself after only 20-30 seconds.
 
Yeah it serves more than one purpose. Many fighters just like to do it all flashy in front of the camera. I remember the first time I watched my friend shadow box. I asked him to go all out. He wasn't breathing properly, or at all really, since he was a complete novice. Anyway he ended up exhausting himself after only 20-30 seconds.
yup, that's what made pac so special, no one can do it 100 percent for three minutes, Pac is about the closest I've seen. I really do think that was one of Mike's biggest weaknesses was that he did not learn to vary his pace at all, it was either 100 percent or if that didn't work, not much. Relaxation and pacing can take a fighter a long ways. I always say Alis real strength was his stamina and the pace he could fight at but he rarely was tense or trying to kill anyone.

Pac was pac and I still am positive that he was on all sorts of stuff but he was still the best as far as stamina. No one did it like him. There is a reason Mayweather sidestepped him for years.
 
yup, that's what made pac so special, no one can do it 100 percent for three minutes, Pac is about the closest I've seen. I really do think that was one of Mike's biggest weaknesses was that he did not learn to vary his pace at all, it was either 100 percent or if that didn't work, not much. Relaxation and pacing can take a fighter a long ways. I always say Alis real strength was his stamina and the pace he could fight at but he rarely was tense or trying to kill anyone.

Pac was pac and I still am positive that he was on all sorts of stuff but he was still the best as far as stamina. No one did it like him. There is a reason Mayweather sidestepped him for years.
Pac was definitely special. He would throw barrages of power shots in sheer volume like they were jabs. Round after round he could maintain it. That's freakish.
 
Every time I've watched Usyk box, I just can't get into it. I get that he's skilled, he's talented, etc. But I just don't like his style at all. I was never a huge fan of Loma either. Maybe I just don't like the Ukraine style of boxing. But it's hard to put a finger on.. anyone else feel this?

No - I Personally love the footwork and style of both fighters. As a big fan of the domestic boxing scene it’s rare for me to be such a big fan of foreign fighters, but they are probably my favourite fighters of the last few years. You’re not alone though dude, there’s a few on here that clearly don’t like Loma at least
 
well, some people just don't like the style. nothing you can do about that, i don't like a bunch of fighters either. can't stand watching whyte, or chisora.

usyk has a very eastern european style of boxing. some people are bound not to like that.
 

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