Why do Fighter's with Cardio Problems ignore said problem?

[Kaiokenrye24]

Explain training right.

When you have to do a dozen different kinds of training, its hard to do everything to mastery. Especially without PEDs.

Yoy are right with "repetitions of what you're doing".This is why a wrestler is going to be able to grapple longer without getting tired and a striker will be able to do that longer.

Fighters must determine what works for them. Ferguson walks around at 200 pounds, but his cardio is insane. Training outdoors in big bear in conjunction with 10th planet works for him.

 

[Jawth]

Sure he can. Will he be a competitive marathon runner? Probably not gut he can run and train shedding his fat and complete a marathon. I trained for a marathon and the most I ran in prep was 9 miles (big mistake) and finished the LA marathon.

Obviously meant competitive. Also shredding fat is another thing that is determined in part by genetics and age.

Gteat for you, you'd kick my ass in a run, but at the same time I'd be willing to bet I'd destroy you lifting weights. Different muscle types are better at different things, and your primary type is heavily influenced by genetics. I've never been good at cardio related tasks, even as a child before I put muscle on.

Could I have worked harder and got a bit better at it? Sure. Was I ever going to be a triathlon champ or Olympic swimmer? Fuck no. So I started doing the kind of physical activity I was better at, got buff and excelled at it.

 

[blaseblah]

That's nonsense. Yes some people have a genetic head start but you gain cardio by repeating repetitions of whatever it is that you're doing.
The fighters who gas out either don't know how to pace themselves or they're not training right.

This is foolish thinking. How many rounds do you imagine Conor does in training? Obviously far more than it takes him to tire out in a fight. If it were that easy he would've fixed it by now.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

A lot of it is about being calm too, if you are calm then your very unlikely to gas. Conor for example is not calm when guys actually start fighting back against him, as soon as they actually fight back he just gasses and falls apart. Its because he is not calm and browns his panties. If Conor had it all his own way, then he will never gas.

Butterbean had nearly 100 professional boxing fights at 400 Ibs range and he never ever gassed in any of them, not even once!!!. I have seen Butterbean fight live and in round 10 he didn't even have sweat on him, but Conor is exhausted and nearly dying at 165 Ibs range. Reason being is because Bean is very calm and he knows how to pace himself. Conor doesn't and is scared a

 

[Jawth]

Mark Hunt was in great shape(relatively speaking) in his fight with Derrick Lewis.

He also has generally low output and was striking, something he's been doing years and years. In a grapple heavy contest he'd get tired much faster.

Not trying to shit on Hunt at all. Hes just an easy example of his bodytype.

 

[Ronin13]

Maybe they tell themselves that it's not gonna be a factor since they're plan is to end it fast. That's where the plans fails

 

[BBMN]

But conditioning is something that can be fixed relatively quick

Not really.

Guys with great cardio spend years getting it. It's a lifestyle choice, not a good camp or two.

You think the people like running and swimming all the time year after year? Hell no. They do it because they know it pays off over time.

 

[BayAreaGuy]

Not everyone can punch like Mike Tyson.

Not everyone can have grest cardio

Not everyone can have strong muscles.

Not everyone can be great at math, writing, or singing.

But you can have combinations of them, just not all.

 

[AGEZ909]

Mighty Mouse should heed the message in the op and fix his size problem. Why not just grow into a bigger weight class?

 

[smiles mma]

After every fight they should spend points to improve their cardio. Level that shit up

 

[what-wut]

To turn a wrestler/grappler into a fluid striker usually takes some time and a strong work ethic (TJ Dillashaw, Rafael Dos Anjos). Sometimes it will take more than 1 camp to see all the progression.

But conditioning is something that can be fixed relatively quickly and there are fighters from the journeyman-prospect level(Marcin Held, Warley Alves) to the championip level(Aldo,Mcgregor) that allow cardio to cost them wins. Fighters like Max Holloway and Tony Ferguson have used Cardio to enhance their other skills and become a champion level fighter It won't win fights alone obviously, but it seems like an obvious thing not to overlook.

Why do fighters let conditioning get in the way of achieving their potential?

It's not just conditioning. It's tactics, it's knowing how to take a break in the middle of a fight. And knowing how to fight without punching yourself out. Explosive athletes tend to gas out faster. Look at Canelo vs GGG. Canelo managed to stay in the fight and won the last three rounds. By taking breaks and fighting in spots.

 

[memphis0789]

"But conditioning is something that can be fixed relatively quickly" This is a laughably naive, and ignorant statement. Nearly everybody in the UFC is fairly well conditioned for their frame... if you're a guy like Tyron Woodley to go 5 rounds he can only afford a handful of explosive exchanges.. if he pushes harder than that he knows he'll gas. Tony no doubt is one of the hardest workers in the UFC, but it would be silly to not credit genetics, and body type a little bit... it's not a coincidence the dude that looks like a marathon runner has good cardio, and the guy that looks like a bodybuilder has shit cardio.

finally someone gets it cardio cant be improved to no end why do you think cyclist took epo

 

[The Adder]

mma fighters are d level athletes. theres not much that can be done.

 

[GTS]

Cardio is not speed/athleticism, a lot of athletically challenged fighters can push the pace

You really missed the point....

 

[Zee's MMA Subscriber]

It really comes down to genetics IMO

Some guys will never be explosive and some guys will never have elite cardio. fast twtich vs slow twitch

Of course you can improve on either but there is a threshold

Mcgegror can do all that training at the UFC PI but he'll never have elite cardio just like Nate Diaz will never be an explosive athlete.

 

[Boomslang]

There are different types of cardio (not sure if that makes sense.) For example: I knew people who could run the manitou incline. But in our BJJ classes they would gas in less than 5 min during sparing.

 

[Danespina]

Werdum vs. Cain

Werdum went to Mexico way early and worked on his cardio extra to make sure he was prepared.

Cain didn't.

 

[Chomsky Honk]

There are many variables, the answer isn't always as Bas says "just run more hills"

Things that might have an impact on a fighter's endurance:

How much they work on cardio (obviously)
Genetics
What PEDs the fighter is using
Overtraining
Undertraining (perhaps due to injury/illness during training camp)
Bad weight cuts
Nutrition
Something Chael talks a lot about - how a fighter psychologically handles the stress/adrenaline dump of performing

and most importantly, pacing. As GSP has said before he thinks a big key to improving as a fighter is being as efficient as possible with every move you make.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

Cardio is hard, mmkay.

 

[Rittsy]

It's mixed martial arts. Key word is mixed. There are different styles for different fighters, some of them rely on explosive power, some rely on volume etc.

Cardio isn't a videogame stat. You'll get more tired depending on how you're fighting, how you're being fought and how you feel. Jones, who has great conditioning, said he felt tired and couldn't breathe properly in the first round in the second DC fight, that wasn't due to a physical cardio problem but because he was over-excited (his words).

Make Diaz fight in the same way Conor does and see how he does in the later rounds. He'll have the same issues.