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Why do BJJ blackbelts dominate ADCC?

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by TommyHearns, Aug 10, 2005.

  1. TommyHearns

    TommyHearns Yellow Belt

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    It is no-gi and with leglocks allowed, BJJ has a gi and does not use leglocks! How come BJJ guys dominate?

    Are there no world-class no-gi submission wrestling camps in the world?
     
  2. ARIS

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    bjj uses leglocks but not so much at the beginner level. And many school train as much with the gi as with no-gi.
     
  3. scorcho

    scorcho Brown Belt

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    BJJ is pretty big and established so it has an advantage as it. Also the event was created by a sheiks son after he trained BJJ in the states, so the rules and setup favor BJJ players.
     
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    spiderguardman Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    because it rules
     
  5. colinm

    colinm Brown Belt

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    bjj guys train no gi, they also train leglocks, and adcc is basically no gi jiu jitu but the point system is a little different. wrestlers and judoka have done well too.
     
  6. Rip Van Winkle

    Rip Van Winkle Last Login 2009

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    Who told you BJJ is only w/ a gi and doesn't use leglocks???

    C'mon...spit out names pal...SPIT THEM OUT!!!
     
  7. TommyHearns

    TommyHearns Yellow Belt

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    Well sport BJJ is just that isn't it?
     
  8. 7up

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    It was set up by His Highness the Sheik Tahnoon Bin Zayed Al Nayan (say 10 times fast) who is the son of the president of the United Arab Emerits. He did BJJ first then expanded in to other Martial arts (Hes curently a Black Belt BJJ, and conciderd an expert in Sambo, Frystyle Wrestling and Muay Thai). The rules realy dont favor BJJ though. They create a more level playing feald for the grapaling arts only 2 points for guard passing and knee on belly insted of three as well as scorin for half guard passes (1point) and side controle (2points) (although no auto finishes for throws that land your opponent flat with his sholders at your feet and pins, just so Judo and wreseling dont get an advantage either).
     
  9. 7up

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    True just look at Eddie Bravo
     
  10. Dedicado

    Dedicado Machetero

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    What are you talking about? Even in white-belt BJJ toe-holds, ankle locks and knee bars are allowed, only heel hooks are dis-allowed- but they are legal at higher levels. Who told you this? You have been lied to.
     
  11. hamoom

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    not sure what white belt bjj tournaments youre going to...

    in the states at least knee bars arent allowed to a purple belt level, sometimes brown... ive only seen toe holds allowed at brown and above.
     
  12. Dedicado

    Dedicado Machetero

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    I go to the Tiger Balm internationals, in Vancouver, Canada. The head judge is Professor Marcus Soares, 4th Dan, Carlson Gracie team.
    The only subs not allowed are anything that twists the knee, a straight knee bar is allowed under these rules.
     
  13. Dedicado

    Dedicado Machetero

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    Toe holds at Brown? Wow! That is weird, eh? I am a Judo player, so I shocked the hell outta this Machado JJ guy when I broke his arm-bar and slapped on a toe-hold, Marcus Soares just looked down at us and smiled. I think he really likes foot-locks, his nick name in Brazil was " Bicho-de-pe " (some kind of Amazonian jungle insect that attacks your feet and pwns them).
    Come up to Canada dude, we have alot fewer laws up here!
     
  14. cb9fl

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    From CBJJ

     
  15. TommyHearns

    TommyHearns Yellow Belt

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    Yeah look at those rules. Also, you have avoided my point on no-gi. Sport BJJ doesn't use gi.
     
  16. Dedicado

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    No scissors take-down? That's unreal, I saw, in 2004, a Blue belt take down a guy with a scissors, he just ran up and did it, buddy never had a chance, it was awesome!

    But I don't want to hijack this thread so umm.. BJJ players aren't the only ones who dominate ADCC, Wrestlers have done well too, it's just that a good BJJ player can submit a guy, this gives him an advantage, cuz he goes for the kill. Jean Jaques Machado once was quoted as saying, " I go for the submission every single time..if I can't submit him then I deserve to lose (by points)."

    With this kinda attitude, it's no wonder BJJ has done so well in ADCC.
     
  17. Gsoares2***

    Gsoares2*** Banned Banned

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    Achiles lock is aloud by blue..
    No knee bars, no toe holds, no heel hooks till purple.
     
  18. Sherdog_Mutt

    Sherdog_Mutt Purple Belt

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    I hate it when people think that the ADCC rules favor BJJ players. How do they favor BJJ players? You can't answer this question can you?
     
  19. Throatyogurt

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    cuz its teh best
     
  20. hamoom

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    well alot of white and blue belts train with all the leglocks.. they just dont compete with them. maybe that clarifies things a little better.
     

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