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There used to be plenty of movies in which a western Euro or an American or a Canadian is set straight by the less money obsessed in harmony with nature / cycle of life Asian dude .
Almost always Chinese or Japanese..

Does a more networked world where you can look up the Dzunghar massacre in seconds less kind to that perspective? Is there more awareness of the from western POV negative aspects of Far eastern countries compared to the 80s and 90s?

Does China pressuring western studios make screenwriters instictivly hostile to writing such characters?
 
What movies portray this?
Only movies I can think of are Asian kung fu type movies…

What about avatar and dances with wolves?
Dr. Strange? The last samurai?

Does fearless count?
 
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Internet showed they were as full of it as the rest of us in the west too. Information destroyed the hype. And just when I was on the verge of mastering the art of Dim Mak.
 
biscuitsbrah said:
What movies portray this?
Only movies I can think of are Asian kung fu type movies…

What about avatar and dances with wolves?
Dr. Strange? The last samurai?

Does fearless count?
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biscuitsbrah said:
What movies portray this?
Only movies I can think of are Asian kung fu type movies…

What about avatar and dances with wolves?
Dr. Strange? The last samurai?

Does fearless count?
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for what TS is blathering about doc strange and last samurai fit as he is fixated on the east Asian thing

but avatar and dww are in a similar vein

out of all the ones like these though my favorite are the guy from the hood has to teach the vanilla straight edge how to relax and be cool
 
I think this trope died in the 90's because after that, the novelty wore off. Before that you had movies like Karate Kid where immigrant Japanese dude fights for the USA but his wife and kid die in an internment camp and then he ends up where Johnny was at the start of Cobra Kai. But he still has life figured out and is the best surrogate dad to daft American bitch Daniel LaRusso. Also Lethal Weapon 4 where Jet Li is such a pimp that he clowns armed policemen with his bare hands and it takes America's two greatest heroes in Riggs and Murtaugh double teaming him with guns to take him down.

But these movies are also less popular now because they have an anti-woke message of venerating western men. Tarzan, Shogun, Last Samurai, etc. etc. all feature a white dude thrown into a hostile foreign land where he should be nothing if not someone's bitch. But dude assimilates into the culture and somehow ends up better at being Japanese than the Japanese.
 
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ChickenBrother said:
I think this trope died out in the 90's because after that, the novelty kind of wore off. Before that you had movies like Karate Kid where immigrant Japanese dude fights for the USA but his wife and kid die in an internment camp and then he ends up where Johnny was at the start of Cobra Kai. But he still has life figured out and is the best surrogate dad to daft American bitch Daniel LaRusso. Also Lethal Weapon 4 where Jet Li is such a pimp that he clowns armed policemen with his bare hands and it takes America's two greatest heroes in Riggs and Murtaugh double teaming him with guns to take him down.

But these movies are also less popular now because they have an anti-woke message of venerating western men. Tarzan, Shogun, Last Samurai, etc. etc. all feature a white dude thrown into a hostile foreign land where he should be nothing if not someone's bitch. But dude assimilates into the culture and somehow ends up better at being Japanese than the Japanese.
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I bet the streaming data says they did not lose their popularity.

ObsoleteSoul said:
Internet showed they were as full of it as the rest of us in the west too. Information destroyed the hype. And just when I was on the verge of mastering the art of Dim Mak.
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There are tropes that still work, like Tibetan monks. It can still be done well in terms of the master character.

I Am Legion said:
That trope has been done to death. Also reality made those characters unrealistic as those guys now have I-Phones and wear Lebron Jerseys.
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Exceptional individuals can live without those. They are still foreign cultures informed by Confucianism.
 
Nizam al-Mulk said:
I bet the streaming data says they did not lose their popularity.


There are tropes that still work, like Tibetan monks. It can still be done well in terms of the master character.


Exceptional individuals can live without those. They are still foreign cultures informed by Confucianism.
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Not saying it cannot be done, only that we do not have that view of the east as much anymore due to information. Most of the mystical stuff has been disproven, or they watch MMA, and know what will really work in those combat situations. It is just a different time now. It can still work in cinema, it just is less likely to be taken as seriously as it once was.
 
ObsoleteSoul said:
Not saying it cannot be done, only that we do not have that view of the east as much anymore due to information. Most of the mystical stuff has been disproven, or they watch MMA, and know what will really work in those combat situations. It is just a different time now. It can still work in cinema, it just is less likely to be taken as seriously as it once was.
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Agreed.
 
Yeah, people learned about the Guangxi Massacre and thought "maybe not".

This post is 100 % a joke by the way.
 
Dancing with Wolves did it first and it wasn't about Asians
 
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