-Someone lied about him having UFC wins when in reality he lost once in a supposedly winnable fight and then got canned.
Lied or was mistaken? I couldn't remember which of his fights were in Strikeforce or UFC from that time either.
Lets close the whole forum then since there's google to answer everything already. You're a dope.
You're just a narcissist who actually takes offense when somebody doesn't know something about your precious sport. Like "how dare you not know that". So insecure and childish it's hilarious to see grown men act like this.
My own replies had nothing to do with your knowledge about grappling, the only person bringing that up is you. The reference to google was regarding your lack of balls to state your argument upfront rather baiting with a statement and jumping on the replies. Also my childish, narcissistic insecurity is none of your business sir.
Here's my argument again for you: he quit the sport he was the best at @ 28 to go become a failure in another sport. After the Kennedy fight when he was still in his early 30s he still didn't get the memo. Michael Jordan sucked at baseball so he went back and dominated his own sport some more. He didn't have 'anything to prove' either, but he went from a regular legend to the GOAT. Roger wasted the good number of years he had left by not competing in BJJ. Fair play if he retired from sports, but he's still putting everything into MMA by fighting cans. You know I'm right on this, that's why you're fighting this so hard. Truth hurts doesn't it?
Like I said in my initial reply, I think you misunderstand the athletes motivation in this particular case and more generally. Roger said he competed in grappling to test himself and his jiu jitsu, he switched to MMA to test himself again. You say Roger wasted years by not continuing to compete in BJJ, I'm sure he felt that staying in grappling was a waste of what was left of his athletic career. A lack of success at the peak of MMA doesn't invalidate that decision. Also someone has to fight cans, it sucks when they fight each other, why don't the cans just retire too since they suck so bad?! I can agree with you broadly that his MMA career was/is disappointing, especially in comparison to his grappling career but there is no truth to be reached here, just a difference of perspectives.
The only thing I feel I'm fighting against in this discussion is your miserable career guidance by hindsight. I don't understand exactly why Roger should quit from your perspective? Because its beneath him and his grappling GOAT status to perform worse in MMA than he did in BJJ? Because its a pointless exercise for anyone to compete unless they are on the way to the top? Please help me understand. I'm sure he has his own reasons for continuing to compete, and I don't begrudge him continuing his MMA career for as long as he wants to crush cans in ONE FC.
LOL don't flatter yourself kid, I've been in flamewars online for years this is nothing to me. A bullying is earlier on in the thread when I laid the smackdown on you and you only had a lone smiley to answer with. People who can dish it out but can't take it can't bully anyone, too much estrogen not enough testosterone.
I'm not sure this is something to brag about, please talk more about my post count like anyone cares.
See you're doing damage control again. It went SPECTACULARLY bad. Like Ishii level bad in terms of promising prospects not delivering.
No damage control, the badness or otherwise of his MMA career isn't the point, your suggestion that is/was a waste of time is what people are arguing against here and its success or otherwise isn't the only factor.
Years from now when his accomplishments are surpassed by someone who sticks around longer in BJJ than he did, you'll see what I mean. In the meantime just have fun spazzing out unprovoked towards anybody who doesn't want to be a part of your cult.
He has no control over who does or doesn't surpass his accomplishments in the future, again it seems like you misjudge what motivates people to compete. If he wasn't satisfied enough with his achievements in grappling he wouldn't have switched. Your opinion as to what the correct number of Mundial wins to stop anyone overtaking him as the statistical GOAT or whatever is kind of irrelevant and misses the point of competition entirely. I'm not sure what else to say.