Rewatch Why did Overeem never get the UFC belt? (long - if TikTok destroyed your attention span don't open)

He was certainly a championship level fighter, he was able to beat several former champ. But he just couldn't get it done when he had his shot.

He was in the UFC for 10 years and only managed to get 1 title shot, which is very rare for an elite fighter at HW considering it's a thinner division. I think that the time after he beat Lesnar where he went 1-3 hurt his chances to get title fights. That was the time that he was hyped up and would have been easy to get a title shots, but he just lost. After the division had more contenders so he needed a few more wins.
 
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JKS said:
He was certainly a championship level fighter, he was able to beat several former champ. But he just couldn't get it done when he had his shot.

He was in the UFC for 10 years and only managed to get 1 title shot, which is very rare for an elite fighter at HW considering it's a thinner division. I think that the time after he beat Lesnar where he went 1-3 hurt his chances to get title fights. That was the time that he was hyped up and would have been easy to get a title shots, but he just lost. After the division had more contenders so he needed a few more wins.
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Plus he lost to guys that were supposed to be layups for him.
 
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Overeem never got a UFC belt because his chin is made from Fine China.

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BEATDOWNS said:
Overeem never got a UFC belt because his chin is made from Fine China.

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I mean it was more of a recovery thing.

He would get hit and not be able to recover in time, rather than going out like a light


his head is mad small bro.

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HHJ said:
I mean it was more of a recovery thing.

He would get hit and not be able to recover in time, rather than going out like a light


his head is mad small bro.

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HHJ said:
Plus he lost to guys that were supposed to be layups for him.
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It would have been interesting to see how Overeem vs Cain would have gone. If Overem got by Silva he would have got a title shot.
 
He was the king of Strikeforce at a time when their heavyweight division was better than the UFC's.
 
Like a fiddle said:
He was the king of Strikeforce at a time when their heavyweight division was better than the UFC's.
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He beat Paul Buentello for the belt and then defended it one time, about 3 years later
 
even in 2004 this would the TL, dr
 
He has a bit of a bully mentality. You can see it in his interviews. He's a smart guy though, a thinker. Planned everything trained hard. He just broke when it got tough. Either by cardio or by getting hit. The pattern you see with every fight he has is that he's winning until he's not. Every fight, every loss. Except for Ngannou but he was way past his prime there.

Overeem had all the skills, with a little bit more grit like Mark Hunt or Stipe he would've been a fine champ. But Bully tendencies In and out of the cage and his weaker chin stopped him from reaching that level.
 
HHJ said:
Hardly the case in kickboxing.
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HHJ said:
No it wasnt, Even though he lost 2 out of 3 that guy was very entertaining and def alot more interesting than MVP

also at least he lost spectacularly and not just boringly outclassed over 3 rds
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he is talking football of course and that's also not true. let alone Olympics where the dutch rank among the best countries in medals, even though a small popultion.
but in martial arts it's not true as well, i agree with you. many titles in kickboxing and also some in mma. bas rutten held titles, germainde de randamie held titles in multiple martial arts. the list goes on.

overeem got multiple titles in different martial arts and here we are making a thread about why he didnt get a UFC title.....and this guy you quoted comes along to say it's his natonality. Ridiculous of course. many fighters that have the tools to become a UFC champ and still come up short, doesnt mean anything. some titles are meant for only a few. sometimes it's luck, sometimes nothing like it.

What if the referee stopped the Carwin vs Lesnar fight when Lesnar was all curled up and taking a beating? Things would have been totally different. Perhaps it is because Carwin is american and americans always choke when they get the opportunity. Even though he was fighting an American.

doesnt sound ridiculous at all, or does it?
 
Fight IQ was arguably quite bad for the majority of his career. Just terrible defense all around.
 
HHJ said:
His fight IQ was an issue also imo.


Sometimes he would use his grappling at odd times and then just get back up and start striking, like he was just doing takedowns just to do them and not for any strategic advantage or finish
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Same thing would happen when he would go on the defensive. Most of the times he'd just shell up and wait for the other guy to back off. With boxing gloves it works, but with mma gloves...
 
Can't really put a pin in exactly what makes me think this, but I always felt like hubris might be part of his problems in the big fights.
 
Its like somebody created a custom fighter in a video game and maxed out all the stats except for defence and health points
 
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