why bodybuilders look bigger than fighters?
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I think bodybuilders have less body fat percentage.
Bodybuilders train for hypertrophy (building muscle mass)
Fighters train to beat people up and have better endurance. Thats why they are less muscular
Bodybuilders train for hypertrophy (building muscle mass)
Fighters train to beat people up and have better endurance. Thats why they are less muscular
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200lb fighters are taller (usually 6'1+), whereas bodybuilders at that weight are around 5'6 - 5'10. So they're filled out more. Muscle mass isn't the same in these cases. The taller fighter is more bone. If both are the same weight and height, then you may have an argument.
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You might be onto something...
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Bodybuilders have a way, way lower BF% than fighters.
The average 200-pound fighter is going to be sitting around 10-16% BF. Bodybuilders are well into single digits.
The average 200-pound fighter is going to be sitting around 10-16% BF. Bodybuilders are well into single digits.
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Bodybuilders train to have bigger muscles. It's all in how you train.
I know but if they're in the same heigh and weight the body fat almost the same. So they must have the same muscle mass. But why bodybuilder look bigger if the amount of muscle is same?
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Bodybuilders train for HYPERTROPHY - the increase in the volume of muscle tissue due to the enlargement of its component cells. Key word here.
Fighters train for speed, strength and endurance so their muscle cells don't grow as large but are more dense (thus are heavier that they look).
If you want a very detailed explanation, read this:
https://www.t-nation.com/training/why-bodybuilders-are-more-jacked-than-powerlifters
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A 200lbs fighter and a 200lbs bodybuidler will most certainly not have the same BF%. 200lbs fighters are mostly 170 and 185 fighters and if it's the former then it's walking around weight which means they are fatter.
Also a 200lbs bodybuilder will most of the time have a much higher BMI and be shorter so he will have more muscle mass than a 200lbs fighter.
The closest thing would be Palhares or hector Lombard and both are fatter than most bodybuilders at 200lbs.
Also genetics like muscle insertions and shapes and everything matter and a bodybuilder is more likely to have good genetics looks wise.
And on top of that it's distributed differently so a bodybuilder will most likely primarily build the muscles that look the best while a fighter buidls those he needs to fight.
Also a 200lbs bodybuilder will most of the time have a much higher BMI and be shorter so he will have more muscle mass than a 200lbs fighter.
The closest thing would be Palhares or hector Lombard and both are fatter than most bodybuilders at 200lbs.
Also genetics like muscle insertions and shapes and everything matter and a bodybuilder is more likely to have good genetics looks wise.
And on top of that it's distributed differently so a bodybuilder will most likely primarily build the muscles that look the best while a fighter buidls those he needs to fight.
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Certainly don't show us an example. You know, that wouldn't help at all.
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Composition is different, bodybuilders may look great but a brazilian with 33 old style Vale Tudo fights told me once that muscle mass gets you tired, you just need a little and many times some guys like Mark Hunt can fight way more than someone with low fat percentage and impressive hipertrofia.
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Theres been plenty of fighters with mid bodybuilding physiques that might do well in a competitive mens fitness event, like Hector Lombard for example.
As mentioned hypertrophic training focuses on different muscle fibers, enabling growth.
That being said, with 35 years in training, AAS is the real playmaker and the difference between the two, BBérs use different compounds to MMA fighters, stuuf that fighters wont, or shouldnt use, like say Superdrol for example, packs on mass fast, but leaves majority of users feeling lathargic and under a heavy cardio load can lead to high blood-pressure and a bit of hypertension. No way an MMA athlete should use that shit. also, the doses BB'rs use is usaully quite higher than what an MMA athlete would use.
....let the flaming begin....
As mentioned hypertrophic training focuses on different muscle fibers, enabling growth.
That being said, with 35 years in training, AAS is the real playmaker and the difference between the two, BBérs use different compounds to MMA fighters, stuuf that fighters wont, or shouldnt use, like say Superdrol for example, packs on mass fast, but leaves majority of users feeling lathargic and under a heavy cardio load can lead to high blood-pressure and a bit of hypertension. No way an MMA athlete should use that shit. also, the doses BB'rs use is usaully quite higher than what an MMA athlete would use.
....let the flaming begin....
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I think if Mark Hunt dieted down, he would be a killer at 155
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That´s not gonna happen xD
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McGregor can make atomweight
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its the type of muscle they are delevolping ... different type of muscle....the fighter will have be more explosive and have better endurance but the bodybuilder will be stronger
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I think it has to do with training fast twitch vs slow twitch muscle fibers. Fast twitch fibers are larger and stronger but have less endurance. Slow twitch fibers are smaller and not as strong, but can go much longer. Bodybuilders look amazing, but they'll fade much quicker than someone with more slow twitch fibers. I think that this is why Joe Rogan says that big muscles can be a liability when going the distance in a fight. They also require more blood and oxygen and thereby limit cardiovascular output.
Compare two different types of cyclists. A rider competing for overall victory in a 3-week race like the Tour De France will look like a twig (also because power to weight is hugely important when climbing uphill, not so much for sprinting on a flat road).
This is Chris Froome, currently the fastest stage racer in the world and a very good climber. He's can go hard for hours, but will get smoked in a short sprint against a lot of riders. He's not much to look at with his slow twitch muscles:
This is Andre Greipel, one of the top sprinters at the moment. He's still skinny by bodybuilder standards because he has to be able to stay with the group hauling himself up the climbs before he can sprint for the finish line, but the difference in size between him and Chris Froome is still obvious. He struggles more with the longer efforts, especially climbing, but when it comes down to a short, all-out effort towards the finish line then his muscle becomes an advantage. He has significantly more fast twitch muscle and is therefore larger.
Compare two different types of cyclists. A rider competing for overall victory in a 3-week race like the Tour De France will look like a twig (also because power to weight is hugely important when climbing uphill, not so much for sprinting on a flat road).
This is Chris Froome, currently the fastest stage racer in the world and a very good climber. He's can go hard for hours, but will get smoked in a short sprint against a lot of riders. He's not much to look at with his slow twitch muscles:
This is Andre Greipel, one of the top sprinters at the moment. He's still skinny by bodybuilder standards because he has to be able to stay with the group hauling himself up the climbs before he can sprint for the finish line, but the difference in size between him and Chris Froome is still obvious. He struggles more with the longer efforts, especially climbing, but when it comes down to a short, all-out effort towards the finish line then his muscle becomes an advantage. He has significantly more fast twitch muscle and is therefore larger.
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