Opinion Why are so many Republicans against the pre-existing health conditions clause?

[Last Falconry]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess it has something to do with a rustic aphorism about personal responsibility or something

 

[Chest Rockwell]

They started the idea of Gofundme so as to get paid on both ends.

Traditionally they would have to swallow that debt. Now they get the taxpayers to donate their own money to help individuals pay off the medical debt before the corporation has to eat it.

They continue to laugh all the way to the bank.

 

[Falsedawn]

It’s a myth GOP is not against it generally

What fucking revision is this?

The GOP has spent literally 10 years campaigning on repealing the ACA and returning to "how we did things before". We didn't cover preexisting conditions then.

Even worse when you look into the legislation the Republicans say supposedly "protects preexisting conditions" by shifting them into wildly uncapped high risk pools, thereby defeating the purpose of providing affordable coverage. That was the AHCA. Thank fuck for John McCain shooting that shit down. Oh, and y'all haven't stopped shitting on his grave since because he fucked over your shit president.

This revision shit has to stop, you fucking people are absolutely deranged. The history is abundantly clear on what happened.

 

[giusti825]

This country needs medicare for all. We need to catch up to the rest of the industrialized world that realizes letting sick people unnecessarily die is wrong.

Most of the country is in favor of it, its just a shame that so many politicians on both sides of the isle take bribes from the insurance industry and big pharma. The corporate will matters more than the will of the people. When corporations buy both sides of american politics, no matter who wins, the people lose.

 

[djacobox372]

Because people will wait until they have something to get insurance.

Which is why Obamacare REQUIRED people to have insurance or pay a penalty... which the GOP was ALSO against.

Nonsensical stance by the GOP.

 

[ultramanhyata]

For foreigners who don't know, American health insurance companies used to refuse to provide health insurance policies to people with diabetes, heart problems, or other pre-existing health problems. Then they would end up totally screwed. Obamacare included a clause that made discrimination against people with pre-existing health problems illegal. Republicans tried to repeal that clause a few years ago but republican senator John McCain used his swing vote to stop them.

My friend's mother got cancer when we were growing up. All was well until her husband got laid off. Then they lost their health insurance because it was provided by his employer. Then they couldn't get a new health insurance policy because she had cancer. Then she died without healthcare. I find that shameful. Obamacare has a clause that protects people like her.

Why do so many republicans think that's not shameful?

God gives each of us different talents and abilities as well as different burdens and crosses to bear. If we don't let each individual bear their own cross (like having to pay higher premiums for their preexisting medical conditions) but instead try to help them carry that cross, we are, in effect, opposing the will of Almighty God. We are also depriving that divinely burdened person their opportunity to become what God created them to be.

 

[cincymma79]

Which is why Obamacare REQUIRED people to have insurance or pay a penalty... which the GOP was ALSO against.

Nonsensical stance by the GOP.

Not really. If you're libertarian, which Republicans pick up when it's convenient, you don't want the government compelling people for much of anything. I have free government healthcare and I purchase my own for good reason. I think Switzerland's model is good though

 

[blaseblah]

I'm guessing the voters aren't. The politicians are because they are paid by the health insurance companies. The voters put up with the Republican politicians because they hate Democrats more and fall into the lies spread by right wing media.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

This country needs medicare for all. We need to catch up to the rest of the industrialized world that realizes letting sick people unnecessarily die is wrong.

Most of the country is in favor of it, its just a shame that so many politicians on both sides of the isle take bribes from the insurance industry and big pharma. The corporate will matters more than the will of the people. When corporations buy both sides of american politics, no matter who wins, the people lose.

Stop electing criminals and mountebanks

 

[jmag]

I was thinking about waiting until I was dying to get life insurance benefiting my family, but no insurance company could exist if everyone was allowed to do it. They can provide insurance based on probabilities that something will happen. Otherwise, I don't see how it can be called insurance.

 

[giusti825]

I was thinking about waiting until I was dying to get life insurance benefiting my family, but no insurance company could exist if everyone was allowed to do it. They can provide insurance based on probabilities that something will happen. Otherwise, I don't see how it can be called insurance.

Medical care should not be subject to market forces. Life is not an elastic commodity. If you have cancer, how much would you be willing to pay for life-saving treatment? Every last penny you have, whether you're a worker or a billionaire.

The United States has fallen behind the rest of the industrialized world in regards to the morality of our healthcare system. It's time we caught up.

 

[jmag]

Medical care should not be subject to market forces. Life is not an elastic commodity. If you have cancer, how much would you be willing to pay for life-saving treatment? Every last penny you have, whether you're a worker or a billionaire.

The United States has fallen behind the rest of the industrialized world in regards to the morality of our healthcare system. It's time we caught up.

I'm not saying there is not something better than what we have now, just, as others have said, what insurance is. I would like to see what free market efficiency/competition could do with it, but I don't think we will.