Who's the better MMA grappler, Rockhold or Jones?

[Uncommon Valor]

Who is the better grappler, in your opinion?

 

[RayA]

Rockhold

 

[Aerose91]

We haven't seen enlugh of Jones' grappling to compare, really. Id give the wrestling edge to Jones and BJJ to Rockhold

 

[P4p Islam]

It has to be Jon "The Fury" Jones. I mean cmon. His gnp puts fedors gnp to shame.


Nobody has ever been able to dominate cormier on the ground like jones did.

 

[Hazuki Ryo]

Luke is a better driver and POSSIBLY has a bigger dong

 

[Arm Barbarian]

Wrestling - Jones

Submissions - Luke

 

[Flex Plexico]

Luke, I'd say. Dude attacks from all angles and is hugely opportunistic. Not as dominant a top game, but he's so good at rolling and scrambling and just snatching limbs.

Both are masters at maximizing their leverage

 

[theleerygoose]

Luke, I'd say. Dude attacks from all angles and is hugely opportunistic. Not as dominant a top game, but he's so good at rolling and scrambling and just snatching limbs.

Both are masters at maximizing their leverage

Agreed. Luke is probably a little better from other positions, but Jon Jones in mount is an absolute destroyer. His elbows are hell fire.

 

[Th3Sav4ge]

from Ground strikes, to the ability to take the fight to the mat, and the ability to finish from the mat, i have to take jones

 

[Rainmaker]

Rockhold

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Jones. But to be fair they are two very different grapplers.
Rockhold = bjj
Jones = Greco-roman wrestling

 

[Uncommon Valor]

Up.

 

[unimackpass]

Both masters of their craft. Straight up non striking grappling match match would be something.

 

[Sparkie]

luke is quick with good bjj
jones' base is wrestling and dominated dc with his wrestling in their fight

good question ts

 

[silvasurfer5253]

I think Luke has a more complete game. However, I don't think either of them would last long underneath the other.

 

[Dart Feld]

They bring different philosophies to the ground game. Rockhold is more scramble oriented and more willing to go to his back to finish a choke he's set up. Jones prefers to maintain position over submission and likes to threaten them in wrestling exchanges to set up other offense unless the opponent is hurt first.

Rockhold has good transitons on top, Jones has good passes as well. They both have some funky setups for subs like the kimura from inverted triangle by Luke and the Americana from crucifix by Jones.

If I had to give the edge I'd have to lean towards the MW champs grappling as we've seen it tested in more areas and has held up against Jacare on the bottom. It's hard to imagine ever seeing the rest of JBJ's ground game being tested considering how many wrestlers have failed to take him down and the few TDs he's given up being short lived.

Ofc. that's as far as examining them separate. If they ever fought in the future Jon would likely hold the advantage. He can dictate where the fight goes(superior clinch, TDs, Luke's TDs being supbar, and stellar TDD) and has a well rounded wrestling arsenal, including TDs that don't give as many opportunities to initiate scrambles.

 

[Uncommon Valor]

They bring different philosophies to the ground game. Rockhold is more scramble oriented and more willing to go to his back to finish a choke he's set up. Jones prefers to maintain position over submission and likes to threaten them in wrestling exchanges to set up other offense unless the opponent is hurt first.

Rockhold has good transitons on top, Jones has good passes as well. They both have some funky setups for subs like the kimura from inverted triangle by Luke and the Americana from crucifix by Jones.

If I had to give the edge I'd have to lean towards the MW champs grappling as we've seen it tested in more areas and has held up against Jacare on the bottom. It's hard to imagine ever seeing the rest of JBJ's ground game being tested considering how many wrestlers have failed to take him down and the few TDs he's given up being short lived.

Ofc. that's as far as examining them separate. If they ever fought in the future Jon would likely hold the advantage. He can dictate where the fight goes(superior clinch, TDs, Luke's TDs being supbar, and stellar TDD) and has a well rounded wrestling arsenal, including TDs that don't give as many opportunities to initiate scrambles.

Well said. Good analysis.

 

[Ceez]

They bring different philosophies to the ground game. Rockhold is more scramble oriented and more willing to go to his back to finish a choke he's set up. Jones prefers to maintain position over submission and likes to threaten them in wrestling exchanges to set up other offense unless the opponent is hurt first.

Rockhold has good transitons on top, Jones has good passes as well. They both have some funky setups for subs like the kimura from inverted triangle by Luke and the Americana from crucifix by Jones.

If I had to give the edge I'd have to lean towards the MW champs grappling as we've seen it tested in more areas and has held up against Jacare on the bottom. It's hard to imagine ever seeing the rest of JBJ's ground game being tested considering how many wrestlers have failed to take him down and the few TDs he's given up being short lived.

Ofc. that's as far as examining them separate. If they ever fought in the future Jon would likely hold the advantage. He can dictate where the fight goes(superior clinch, TDs, Luke's TDs being supbar, and stellar TDD) and has a well rounded wrestling arsenal, including TDs that don't give as many opportunities to initiate scrambles.

This makes me want to see them fight now, good post

 

[KillerElite]

They bring different philosophies to the ground game. Rockhold is more scramble oriented and more willing to go to his back to finish a choke he's set up. Jones prefers to maintain position over submission and likes to threaten them in wrestling exchanges to set up other offense unless the opponent is hurt first.

Rockhold has good transitons on top, Jones has good passes as well. They both have some funky setups for subs like the kimura from inverted triangle by Luke and the Americana from crucifix by Jones.

If I had to give the edge I'd have to lean towards the MW champs grappling as we've seen it tested in more areas and has held up against Jacare on the bottom. It's hard to imagine ever seeing the rest of JBJ's ground game being tested considering how many wrestlers have failed to take him down and the few TDs he's given up being short lived.

Ofc. that's as far as examining them separate. If they ever fought in the future Jon would likely hold the advantage. He can dictate where the fight goes(superior clinch, TDs, Luke's TDs being supbar, and stellar TDD) and has a well rounded wrestling arsenal, including TDs that don't give as many opportunities to initiate scrambles.

Rockholds scrambles have to do with the fact he fucking is a LHW.

 

[1King]

If they tied up, Rockhold would end up with his face smashed in, and tapping out.