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No, but you can compare being a BJJ world champion and ADCC world champ with a silver in the Olympics. It's a tremendous understatement to say he was "successful" in BJJ.
Who was closer to being best in the world - Jacare in BJJ or Romero in rasslin'?
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No, but you can compare being a BJJ world champion and ADCC world champ with a silver in the Olympics. It's a tremendous understatement to say he was "successful" in BJJ.
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Romero was a world champion and was consistently elite in the sport for awhile. His Olympic silver is neither his most impressive accomplishment or an aberration as you're implying.
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Jacare for sure.
I would add though that being #1 in wrestling is much, much harder than #1 in BJJ. Wrestling is practiced all over the world by a huge amount of people. Compared to BJJ which was mostly popular only in Brazil and USA.
I would add though that being #1 in wrestling is much, much harder than #1 in BJJ. Wrestling is practiced all over the world by a huge amount of people. Compared to BJJ which was mostly popular only in Brazil and USA.
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Jacare. He won his division and absolute division many times.
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Ahh, he did beat Sazhidov. Just checked. 2000 World Cup, which Romero got the gold in.
The whole "better competition" argument for Romero is nothing but theory. ADCC is the pinnacle of submission grappling and very few great wrestlers ever won there. Kerr did but he was juiced to the gills and trained with BJJ experts for years.
Here's the thing, Romero is NOT going to want to dry hump Jacare in their match. He's going to try and knock him out because if they go down, he'll be hanging on for dear life. There are no pin wins in MMA, but there are submissions wins.
Here's the thing, Romero is NOT going to want to dry hump Jacare in their match. He's going to try and knock him out because if they go down, he'll be hanging on for dear life. There are no pin wins in MMA, but there are submissions wins.
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That's like comparing the best NFL player vs the best soccer player. While the former might be a big thing an some countries, it cannot be called a world sport. Same goes for BJJ.
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Lol no.
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It's not theory.
Wrestling is a far more competitive sport. It has far more worldwide competition.
The fact that quite a few wrestlers have gone to ADCC and won matches, shows how talented the wrestlers are that they can compete in a different sport. No BJJ guys get a little training and win matches at the world championships in wrestling, that's ridiculous.
Fuck, Chael even went there in 2003, while he was still a wrestler, and won a match.
BJJ is growing across the world at a rapid pace. I got schools popping up all around me in the suburbs of Chicago. Wrasslin is for school kids, who then may go onto college. BJJ is becoming a world sport for all ages. UFC still has problems when it comes to judging BJJ vs wrestling IMO.
Regardless, Romero may take Jacare down and he may even be able to hold on for a while, but if/when he decides to pull up and start throwing punches, he's gonna get swept. As I said, he'll likely try hard for a standing KO.
Regardless, Romero may take Jacare down and he may even be able to hold on for a while, but if/when he decides to pull up and start throwing punches, he's gonna get swept. As I said, he'll likely try hard for a standing KO.
Wooo, a wrassler won a match at ADCC. Very impressive. Why would BJJ guys try to win at wrestling? Wrestlers try their hand at BJJ tourneys because they know in order to compete in MMA, they have to be good at it. The other is not true. Wrestling is a SPORT, not a martial art.
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Boxing and Wrestling are the oldest Martial Arts.
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Many wrestlers, many matches.
The other is not true? BJJ guys don't have to learn or practice wrestling and just butt scoot their way to victory? OK!
Laying on their back with their legs spread, desperately clinging to the guy on top is what makes terrible matches and loses those without wrestling lots of fights. You should watch some of them.
You obviously know nothing about BJJ. The UFC changed all the rules to help the American wrasslers because they couldn't compete in the old formats. Mark Schultz, perhaps the best wrestler ever to fight in the UFC, learned BJJ after Rickson Gracie taught him a lesson in Martial Arts. Tapping means, "please don't kill me" or "please don't cripple me". Pins are for pussies.
Regardless Romero ain't gonna spend a lot of time trying to hump Jacare. He'll be outclassed if he does.
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Except for all the wrestlers who dominated in early UFC, Vale Tudo events, and Pride, yeah. They can't compete without the current UFC rules.
Really...the guard is in BJJ, not wrestling. You have no right to accuse others of looking like they are having sex. :wink:
Anyway, I know your type. You identify with BJJ, and you want your recreational 2 hours a week you spend at your dojo to be respected, and get livid when someone claims you aren't participating in the most grueling form of badassery available.
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There is a deeper talent pool in Dagestan than there is worldwide for BJJ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Jiu-Jitsu_Championship
Almost all Brazilians. New sport.
Vs. ancient Olympic sport with 81 nations being represented at last world championships.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_World_Wrestling_Championships
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