Who is the GOAT?

Who is the GOAT?

  • Fedor Emelianenko

  • Jon Jones

  • GSP

  • Mighty Mouse

  • Anderson Silva

  • Chuck Liddell

  • Tyron Woodley

  • Jose Aldo

  • Melvin Guillard

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I think Jones is the most talented fighter listed, but GSP has the better accolades, so I went with him. It's definitely between Jones and GSP though.
 
LOL, polls are silly.

So, a bunch of GSP nuthuggers voted on a sherdog poll? Big f'ing deal....

GSP is between #6 and 10 GOAT.
 
JackSchtotll said:
GSP is #7 or 8 in my list. And my list is true to the sport.
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Everybody is entitled to their opinion and there is no truly right answer, but I think Jones, GSP, Fedor, and Anderson all deserve to be in the top 4, and out of all of those if yopu go by rankings GSP fought the best competition.

1. Every fighter he has ever faced since his regional fights has a Wiki page, has fought in a major organization, and to this day has a winning record.

2. He has beat everyone he has ever fought and has avenged both losses via finish.

3. Has never failed a drug test (for what it's worth (anyway)

4. Won titles in two divisions.

I'm no GSP nutthugger, or a fan of any fighter for that matter, I like to watch MMA, because I like fighting and I want to see who the best is, not to have man crushes on shirtless dudes, and IMO GSP is one of the best to ever do it.
 
JackSchtotll said:
LOL, polls are silly.

So, a bunch of GSP nuthuggers voted on a sherdog poll? Big f'ing deal....

GSP is between #6 and 10 GOAT.
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GSPs resume > Fedors. Easily. Fedor only beat 5 different HWs that were ranked in the top 5 throughout his 40+ fight career. GSP has 15 top 5 wins and that doesnt include the likes of Parisyan, Miller and Trigg who were ranked #6-7 at the time or achieved top 5 rank shortly after the GSP bout.
 
Lionel Mandrake said:
Everybody is entitled to their opinion and there is no truly right answer, but I think Jones, GSP, Fedor, and Anderson all deserve to be in the top 4, and out of all of those if yopu go by rankings GSP fought the best competition.

1. Every fighter he has ever faced since his regional fights has a Wiki page, has fought in a major organization, and to this day has a winning record.

2. He has beat everyone he has ever fought and has avenged both losses via finish.

3. Has never failed a drug test (for what it's worth (anyway)

4. Won titles in two divisions.

I'm no GSP nutthugger, or a fan of any fighter for that matter, I like to watch MMA, because I like fighting and I want to see who the best is, not to have man crushes on shirtless dudes, and IMO GSP is one of the best to ever do it.
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None of the points you've listed favor GSP that much.

Fighters having wiki pages....says nothing. Also, it'd alienate fighters who come from, say, a place like Thailand. It's easier to be "famous" in North America.

In one of those defeats, he tapped to strikes. That speaks poorly of his fighting pedigree. Also, Serra is far from a boogeyman. He faced mediocre competition during a time WW was weaker than it is now. Avenging losses is not a parameters for "GOATness".

PED use is also thrown out there aimlessly. He never failed tests he never really took. He left the business weeks before USADA testing came in...Jones, Fedor and Silva failed the same amount of tests as he did during that period.

The Bisping fight, and refusal to be an active champion don't qualify him as 2-division champion. He won a poorly worn strap that had lost its meaning, and was further tarnished by himself.


An MMA fighter can go from 2009 to 2017 with one finish and be considered a "GOAT".
 
Guile said:
GSPs resume > Fedors. Easily. Fedor only beat 5 different HWs that were ranked in the top 5 throughout his 40+ fight career. GSP has 15 top 5 wins and that doesnt include the likes of Parisyan, Miller and Trigg who were ranked #6-7 at the time or achieved top 5 rank shortly after the GSP bout.
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WW top 5 means very little. It was a shallow weight class, and GSP fought in a weak division where he was the bigger man.

Fedor has faced HWs of all shapes, backgrounds and sizes and made them all look amateurs. The top-5 ranking argument to justify a fighter above another is inaccurate. Also, Fedor was not in the UFC, which makes the rankings questionable altogether.
 
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JackSchtotll said:
WW top 5 means very little. It was a shallow weight class, and GSP fought in a weak division where he was the bigger man.

Fedor has faced HWs of all shapes, backgrounds and sizes and made them all look amateurs. The top-5 ranking argument to justify a fighter above another is inaccurate. Also, Fedor was not in the UFC, which makes the rankings questionable altogether.
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Consensus is that WW and LW are the sports most talented divisions, since ever. GSP beat every man he ever faced and no other GOAT can say the same. Can you really praise Fedor's streal when he was facing guys like 0-1 Nagata when he was 16-1 at the time. Give me your praise for Valavicius, HMC, Zulu, Jaideep, Yanagisawa... Those guys had no business being in there with Fedor.
 
Guile said:
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Consensus is that WW and LW are the sports most talented divisions, since ever. GSP beat every man he ever faced and no other GOAT can say the same. Can you really praise Fedor's streal when he was facing guys like 0-1 Nagata when he was 16-1 at the time. Give me your praise for Valavicius, HMC, Zulu, Jaideep, Yanagisawa... Those guys had no business being in there with Fedor.
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Fedor cannot travel in time. So, you can't blame him for whatever you perceive.

Fedor beat prime Nog, who was an improved version of Werdum twice. That's a testament to his greatness and how well he would do in this HW. He'd be too fast for Ngannou.

There is no such consensus about WW and LW, that's ludicrous. LHW was the most competitive division between 2007 and 2012, when Jones made it look like a group of children.

That consensus is simply a marketing tool to make people care about what were, back in the day, the "manlet division". To convince people they had to care about them, the MMA talking heads kicked this dead horse that they were "skilled", when that's purely a marketing fabrication.

It's Fedor, Silva, Jones, MM, Aldo. Then GSP goes in a second tier of the best ever.
 
JackSchtotll said:
Fedor cannot travel in time. So, you can't blame him for whatever you perceive.

Fedor beat prime Nog, who was an improved version of Werdum twice. That's a testament to his greatness and how well he would do in this HW. He'd be too fast for Ngannou.

There is no such consensus about WW and LW, that's ludicrous. LHW was the most competitive division between 2007 and 2012, when Jones made it look like a group of children.

That consensus is simply a marketing tool to make people care about what were, back in the day, the "manlet division". To convince people they had to care about them, the MMA talking heads kicked this dead horse that they were "skilled", when that's purely a marketing fabrication.

It's Fedor, Silva, Jones, MM, Aldo. Then GSP goes in a second tier of the best ever.
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Look at the poll results???
 
Without taking into consideration things like PEDs, Jon Jones. He's never lost, and destroyed a stacked division. Fedor kind of tarnished his legacy by taking L's to tough guys late in his career outside of Pride. Chuck did the same getting KTFO late in his career and hanging them up too late. Anderson didn't face quite the level of competition the former guys did.
 
Hard to deny GSP.

Dominated his own weightless for years. Beat several different generation of fighters. Retired, came back and beat the current Middleweight champion. He also defended all his losses. I'm pretty sure hes the only one who can say that.
 
GSP can't be GOAT now that he doesn't want to defend the belt.

Still Fedor
 
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