1. The official Sherdog Store is back! Check it out! » Discuss it here! »

Who is the best sleeper grappler in the UFC?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Martialbeef, Jan 10, 2020.

  1. Martialbeef Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2019
    Messages:
    10,049
    Likes Received:
    5,234
    You always get these guys who no one has heard of that somehow have more grappling credentials than the somewhat mainstream folk. Pantoja, Gil Burns, Davi Ramos etc.

    Anyone stand out?

    This is your chance to hipster the fuck out amidst a page full of garbage Cerrone Conor hot takes. Don't underestimate everyone's intelligence and claim Blaydes is a sleeper anything.
     
  2. Mr. Jamie Cee Green Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2016
    Messages:
    1,343
    Likes Received:
    1,436
    Not sure if he counts, but Cláudio ‘Hannibal’ Silva is a bad motherfucker who loves tapping people. I guess he’s fairly well known though, so might not be what you’re looking for, TS.
     
  3. Airdack sandbagging white belt bjj classes

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2013
    Messages:
    6,805
    Likes Received:
    757
    Location:
    Sylvan Learning Center
    Nate. People think of him as a relentless boxer but he was tied with Maia for 2nd most UFC subs for about a year. Sub win over Jim Miller which is really impressive. Bjj black belt from Cesar Gracie who is notorious for being really selective on who he gives black belts.
     
  4. ProPROpro Purple Belt

    Joined:
    May 8, 2010
    Messages:
    2,224
    Likes Received:
    810
  5. Martialbeef Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2019
    Messages:
    10,049
    Likes Received:
    5,234
    Do they? Everyone knows Nate has scary BJJ.
     
  6. FWRGeorgie OH MY GOD!!!!

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2016
    Messages:
    942
    Likes Received:
    101
    I think Anthony Pettis is pretty slept on. More known for his crazy standup shit, subbed a lot of great guys. I feel as though even he sleeps on his ground game too some fights. I'm still pissed that he got stood up against Dustin, I think he had that...
     
  7. Martialbeef Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2019
    Messages:
    10,049
    Likes Received:
    5,234
    Nah that's definitely a good one.
     
  8. maidana Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2019
    Messages:
    520
    Likes Received:
    0
    Max Holloway has a mean guillotine
     
  9. HI SCOTT NEWMAN ✔ Cats are the only hope for planet survival ✔

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2008
    Messages:
    48,118
    Likes Received:
    7,924
    Location:
    Wichita, Kansas, USA
    OSP. He actually is seriously slick and creative on the ground. I think a lot of people just think he is a athlete who came from NFL and strikes.. but he is actually very crafty on the ground and has tons of wins by submission

    I always think that everyone thinks he is a fish on the ground, because his opponents try to take him down, and they don't seem too bothered at all with going to the floor with him and welcome it.
     
  10. Martialbeef Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2019
    Messages:
    10,049
    Likes Received:
    5,234
    I usually give him a better chance of winning when it is on the deck. His striking can be sloppy.
     
  11. killer spider Green Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2019
    Messages:
    1,347
    Likes Received:
    1,156
    korean Zombie
     
  12. Kenny Powerth Jean Belt (Jelt)

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2016
    Messages:
    7,633
    Likes Received:
    4,641
    I don’t think Alexy Olyneik’s grappling is acknowledged enough. I think it gets over shadowed by his age therefore I consider him to be a sleeper.

    people forget he is a 4th degree BB under Ricardo Liborio and had *45* submission wins.
     
  13. Final Say So Icey Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2014
    Messages:
    22,493
    Likes Received:
    4,388
    Stipe has never spent more than a few seconds on his back except against cormier and he’s gotten up every time he’s ever been taken down. Dominates positionally and has never lost the grappling aspect of a fight against any fighter
     
  14. Rambo89 Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    662
    Likes Received:
    280
    Donald Cerrone.. Dude is a Muay Thai beast but has 17 submission wins and has never been submitted. In fact, he didn't get his first win by KO/TKO until he defeated Charles Oliveira in the UFC
     
  15. fortheo Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2010
    Messages:
    39,780
    Likes Received:
    12,350
    Rodolfo Vieira, aka the black belt hunter, is going to be a problem at MW for a lot of guys. I'm surprised he doesn't have much hype. His credentials are ridiculous
     
  16. wufabufa Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2003
    Messages:
    13,321
    Likes Received:
    7,876
    Tai "I am Jiu Jitsu" Tuivasa

    If Santiago Ponzinibio could ever get healthy we'd get to see more of his ground game. I find him to be pretty underrated in general.
     
  17. Martialbeef Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2019
    Messages:
    10,049
    Likes Received:
    5,234
    So not a sleeper?
     
  18. aerius Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2006
    Messages:
    12,639
    Likes Received:
    6,827
    Location:
    YYZ
    Valentina Shevchenko. Everyone's afraid of her striking and I don't blame them, but most of the finishes in her career have been by submission.
    Not many folks have a win by Ezekiel choke on their records like she does.
     
  19. Murder_KickHC Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2019
    Messages:
    3,686
    Likes Received:
    1,840
    Dillon Danis who is outstanding grapler said that Conor is one of the best guys he´s grapled with but it just like Chael says that we never see him having to rely on it because he KTFO everyone he touches with that left hand. Its one of those punches that the fighters he faces look shocked at the power like they cant belieave it.
     
  20. Benoitthegr8 Chasing the Dragon Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    12,786
    Likes Received:
    5,607
    Location:
    Central Operational Universe
    This was my first thought
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.