Who is a better fighter Cro Cop or Stipe

[SpamuraiSensei]

I'll take the decorated K1 and Pride veteran that was sending people into the shadow realm 5-6x a year over UFC Champ that fights 2x times per year if he's lucky.

 

[PlayboyMixx]

I think that Stipe has the better resume and at this point, I would rank Stipe above Mirko on my all-time greatest HW fighters list, but if I had to choose who would win with both fighters at their best, I'd go with Mirko.

 

[DOMMA]

Stipe. Better wins. Less of a can crusher. More complete mma fighter and doesn't need an unhealthy amount of steroids.[/QUOTE

 

[DOMMA]

CroCop came to the UFC near his prime, 32 years old. He was decent, but no where near the level of Stipe. He lost 6 of his 10 fights. CroCop made a living out of crushing sub par competition. He did not fare well in the big league.

 

[EternalNoob]

Both great fighters, but I'd give the edge to Stipe. I wouldn't count prime Mirko out of course and would say he's more than a live dog. Stipe's just a bit more well rounded.

That said, he is definitely hittable. I think he'd avoid the LHK but Mirko has some underrated dirty boxing and sick uppercuts in close. Could catch Stipe with something there.

That said, I think Stipe grinds him down to exhaustion against the cage and maybe eventually takes him down and pounds him out in the 4th or 5th, or wins an unpretty decision.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Ford escort? Was very green and one dimensional. And even he was betting favorite in first fight.

Werdum? Unlike you I don’t suffer from memory loss. Werdum fought like an idiot and ran into punches. Stipe winning that was considered a fluke.

DC: lol a fifty year old has been LHW who essentially got tired of beating up Stipe in the second fight and lost via exhaustion? Stipe ducked him hard for the trilogy and waited until he became even more past his prime!

Shameful you could only muster three examples (and not very good examples) cause Stipe only has a whole twenty wins in his entire career.

Very large sample size !!! Massive!

No matter how you slice it, still better wins than Barnett and Herring.

 

[Kforcer]

CroCop came to the UFC near his prime, 32 years old.

Every fighter is different in terms of when they peak and how long they remain at their peak. You can't just say that he was 32 and therefore in his prime. Well, you can say that, actually, but you'd be wrong to do so.

 

[contrail]

Doesn't make a lot of sense to ask this as Cro Cop only shone in the ring and Stipe came up in the cage. All the material we have to compare them prime for prime is largely worthless as the format of competition is so different.

 

[DOMMA]

Every fighter is different in terms of when they peak and how long they remain at their peak. You can't just say that he was 32 and therefore in his prime. Well, you can say that, actually, but you'd be wrong to do so.

I said near his prime. He was 32 years old when he came to the UFC, the average age of an UFC champion is 33 years and 2 months. At what point in his career do you think he was in his prime, before the UFC or after the UFC?

 

[Kforcer]

I said near his prime. He was 32 years old when he came to the UFC, the average age of an UFC champion is 33 years and 2 months.

Again, like I said, primes are different for different fighters. You can't just look at his age and assess his prime based on that. You'd have to actually look at his performances and see if he peaked at a certain point and began to significantly decline at a certain point in terms of his abilities. Some guys are past their prime in their mid-20's, for a variety of reasons. Everyone is different that way.

 

[Kforcer]

As far as Mirko's prime, I don't really know for sure, I'm not the biggest fan of the guy, but his greatest accomplishment is definitely winning the Pride Open Weight GP. He entered the UFC not so long after after, of course. I don't think he was at his best in the UFC, but I think it was a variety of factors, other than simply declining ability. There was the adjustment to the different format and the cage and I think getting starched by Gonzaga probably took something out of him, the same way his brutal KO of Wanderlei took something out of him. I also don't think his heart was in it when it came to fighting for the UFC in the same way that it was with Pride.

That's just my two-cents.

 

[G10]

Stipe has the much better career, but if we're talking about prime vs prime, Cro Cop wins more often than not.

He is a much more devastating striker, and his defensive wrestling back then was pretty legit. Even at his best, Stipe wasn't that great of an offensive wrestler; he kept it as his Plan B, but he prefers being just a meat&potatos boxer. Also, when you consider the guys Stipe has actually KOed, almost all of them are older veteran heavyweights. Prime Cro Cop KOed almost everybody.