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who had the better prime between rockhold and weidman

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Weidman had the better wins (silva) but his losses were legacy altering bad, ive always had the feeling that luke was the better fighter in every way (except chin).


Ik Weidman got smashed by Luke but winning the head to head matchups doesnt always make you a better fighter (aldo mcgregor) .


what does sherdog think?
 
Rockhold's prime was either much shorter, or he was lucky in the match between them, because he would not have gone on the streak that Weidman did.

For those who think 1 fight is the measure of a man, then why not use my man Belfort's fight as the measure of Weidman, and Belfort again as the measure of Rockhold?

Point is, 1 fight does not measure a fighter. Their career does. Weidman has had more longevity and a higher time at the top.
Weidman is the overall better fighter. Rockhold just had his number that night.
 
Rockhold's prime was either much shorter, or he was lucky in the match between them, because he would not have gone on the streak that Weidman did.

For those who think 1 fight is the measure of a man, then why not use my man Belfort's fight as the measure of Weidman, and Belfort again as the measure of Rockhold?

Point is, 1 fight does not measure a fighter. Their career does. Weidman has had more longevity and a higher time at the top.
Weidman is the overall better fighter. Rockhold just had his number that night.


How is weidman the better overall fighter?
 
Weidman by a long shot.

Chris won the belt from the consensus best 185lber of all time, and defended the belt 3 times.

Rockhold beat Chris and then got KTFO by Michael Bisping who took the fight on very short notice.

Weidman has had the better career.
 
Rockhold's prime was either much shorter, or he was lucky in the match between them, because he would not have gone on the streak that Weidman did.

For those who think 1 fight is the measure of a man, then why not use my man Belfort's fight as the measure of Weidman, and Belfort again as the measure of Rockhold?

Point is, 1 fight does not measure a fighter. Their career does. Weidman has had more longevity and a higher time at the top.
Weidman is the overall better fighter. Rockhold just had his number that night.

Actually, that’s not really true.

Rockhold had longevity too. His streak started in Strikeforce and (apart from a lone loss to TRTor) ended after he destroyed Weidman.
He beat at least 7 highly regarded opponents over a 14 fight win streak (again, disregarding Chitor)

Not just you, but the mentality of ‘if it didn’t happen in the UFC, then it didn’t happen at all’ has always bugged me.
 
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Actually, that’s not really true.

Rockhold had longevity too. His streak started in Strikeforce and (apart from a lone loss to TRTor) ended after he destroyed Weidman.
He beat at least 7 highly regarded opponents over a 14 fight win streak (again, disregarding Chitor)

Not just you, but the mentality of ‘if it didn’t happen in the UFC, then it didn’t happen at all’ has always bugged me.

Their 6 best wins during their streaks (IMO)
Weidman
Machida, Belfort, Maia, Munoz, Silva twice

Rockhold
Machida, Weidman, Bisping, Kennedy, Jardine (maybe Philipou or Boetsch instead? ), Souza.
And Rockholds streak was interrupted by a guy Weidman demolished.

His win vs Weidman aside (can Weidman beat himself?), Weidman would likely beat everyone Rockhold faced. Souza would have been a test though.

We already know Rockhold didn't beat Belfort (admittedly it was a better Belfort Rockhold faced), and he probably wouldn't have beaten the Silva that Weidman faced either, but Rockhold definitely beats the rest of Weidmans competition.

and I'm definitely not this "if it didn't happen in the UFC then it didn't happen" guy as you suggest. Fedor is the GOAT in my eyes. Just because I don't believe that rockhold's Strikeforce wins outshine Weidman doesn't put me in whatever category you choose.
 
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