Who do you rate higher as a wrestler Ken Shamrock or Buff Bagwell?

[El Dandy]

 

[Elvis.]

They were both around at the wrong time , way too many stars back then for either one of them to become regular main event guys , Buff obviously looked fantastic and I don’t think they put much effort into developing his character so he really got stuck and a background Nwo guy , Ken I think would have got a bigger push once Rock & Austin bounced but he decided that getting beat up by a much younger Tito 3 times was the genius career move .
If you were to lock me in a prison cell for a week with only one of their complete catalogues for entertainment I’m going with Shamrock

 

[Versez]

Ken shamrock , is dangerous persona coming from the mma world was interesting back then

 

[LEWIS540]

They were both around at the wrong time , way too many stars back then for either one of them to become regular main event guys , Buff obviously looked fantastic and I don’t think they put much effort into developing his character so he really got stuck and a background Nwo guy , Ken I think would have got a bigger push once Rock & Austin bounced but he decided that getting beat up by a much younger Tito 3 times was the genius career move .
If you were to lock me in a prison cell for a week with only one of their complete catalogues for entertainment I’m going with Shamrock

Never quite got the Buff had amazing look, tbh.

Looked like a standard mid card-wrestler, imo. Not particularly handsome, or great body (barely homo) and no real “x-factor”.

Shamrock could have been a solid upper-mid carder, but by all accounts wasn’t reliable, and his heart was never really in it (think Brock Lesnar, only lacking the ultimate X Factor).

 

[RoastBeast]

Shamrock would have beaten Bagwell into a living death.

 

[RandyCouture>U]

If wcw didn't get bought by Vince, I feel like a shamrock vs Goldberg feud could have been fun.

Also as much as I love wcw, not having buff turn face in 1998 was a huge mistake. They had a few chances to do it as well. They tried in 1999 but they had him box piper and piper schooled him. Then Russo came in and just booked him into oblivion.

Overall, I like buff alot. Great look, decent on the mic and was just victim of bad booking.
With that said, id give shamrock a slight nod. Could mix it up more with different styles.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Austin was an incredible worker; especially his earlier stuff before injuries. He was the Ring Master when he left WCW due to his ability to wrestle. I disagree with your take on Shamrock over Austin in terms of in ring work. That isn't knocking Shamrock, but Austin is a legit worker. I'll agree on the Rock and HHH, but HHH is pretty great as a worker.

I'd argue that calling Shamrock a better worker than Austin is flat out laughable tbh.

 

[Thrawn33]

I have fond memories of Buff being Scott Steiners hype guy.

Shamrock I don't think ever lived up to his potential

 

[the ambush]

If wcw didn't get bought by Vince, I feel like a shamrock vs Goldberg feud could have been fun.

Also as much as I love wcw, not having buff turn face in 1998 was a huge mistake. They had a few chances to do it as well. They tried in 1999 but they had him box piper and piper schooled him. Then Russo came in and just booked him into oblivion.

Overall, I like buff alot. Great look, decent on the mic and was just victim of bad booking.
With that said, id give shamrock a slight nod. Could mix it up more with different styles.

Do you ever think sometimes the company doesn't know how to properly build up a pro wrestler?

Shamrock could be in an excellent match with Austin yet I do not think he (Shammy) was used correctly. He was definitely better than Bagwell in that era, though. Shammy vs Goldberg would have been fun.

 

[the ambush]

I have fond memories of Buff being Scott Steiners hype guy.

Shamrock I don't think ever lived up to his potential

WWE as a company doesn't get it out of guys either and I think that's what happened with Shammy.

It's unfortunate as there were some excellent match possibilities.

 

[Red Beard]

I'd argue that calling Shamrock a better worker than Austin is flat out laughable tbh.

Austin came to WWF older and I remember his earlier stuff...he was top tier. Not like decent, he was incredible.

 

[HHJ]

Bagwell worked best paired off with Scott Steiner.

Otherwise meh.

Ken all the way. Ken is a main event talent.