Who changed their mind re: Ronda vs Floyd?

[Evangelion]

Anyone who thinks Ronda beats Floyd is retarded

 

[HawkHT]

Floyd Mayweather would have absolutely ZERO chance of beating Ronda in an MMA fight. She was VASTLY more skilled and would take him down before he could even begin to comprehend what was happening. Ronda is a FIGHTER, Floyd is only a BOXER. Ronda would submit him in less than 30 seconds.

 

[Git rekt]

Again some of you miss the point.

The GENDER is not the issue. The issue is:

1. Speed
2. Technique
3. Power

Focus on these things directly instead and you make discussion of gender irrelevant. Focusing on the gender just makes things emotional and completely illogical. You have a bunch of tough guys out there who get their panties in a bunch when you mention the idea of even the most gifted female fighter being able to beat a 80 year old man with one arm. They seem to think admitting this means their balls will fall off or something. It just gets ridiculous. Therefore I prefer to avoid it entirely and just talk about the things that matter.

no you seem to be missing the point, i said power and speed, 2 of the 3 things you listed. are directly effected by gender. thats all i said. and its true. all that stuff about 80 year old men and rousey and being scared of dominant women is neither here no there with me.My only point is that speed and power are something males generally have an advantage in and is tied directly to that "thing between their legs". you know testosterone and the musclemass that comes with it. thats just a scientific fact.

even rousey's mother has stated that a man has no business fighting a woman even at the same weight as the two genders are just built differently. you dont have to like it, but dont be surprised when people disagree because alot of this is common knowledge that seems to be have been lost with people trying to be all about equality these days.

look at the difference between belfort and henderson without TRT. they're smaller, weaker, and with worse reactions. you know why? because they are at the age when their body isnt producing nearly the amount of testerone(you know, the stuff that makes men,men?) as was in 20-30's. its a huge difference.


Edit: Can someone just post the GIF of that female boxer who everyone touted as being able to beat men getting bopped into unconsciousness by a meh male boxer?

 

[Joe Buck]

Floyd Mayweather would have absolutely ZERO chance of beating Ronda in an MMA fight. She was VASTLY more skilled and would take him down before he could even begin to comprehend what was happening. Ronda is a FIGHTER, Floyd is only a BOXER. Ronda would submit him in less than 30 seconds.

u funny

 

[SSBBrawler]

I definitely changed my mind. Man was I stupid!!


I thought Floyd would knock her senseless, but now I know he would actually kill her.

 

[Bones245n4847]

I thought He KOs her before Sunday. After Sunday, I'm saying she KOs herself throwing a punch and falling on her face when she hits nothing but air.

 

[TwoFace]

Imagine someone who hits 3x harder than Holm. Imagine someone with far better footwork than Holm. Imagine someone with a 3-inch reach advantage over Holm but with the same height. Imagine someone 2x as fast and accurate as Holm. Imagine someone stronger than Holm. Now imagine someone more elusive, never been KO'ed or TKO'ed, ... that is fucking Floyd Mayweather.

Ronda is as hittable as anyone in the UFC. She does not have the reflexes, the speed, the strength, the durability, to withstand a combo from Money.

Floyd wins 9/10.

 

[r0b0d0c]

no you seem to be missing the point, i said power and speed, 2 of the 3 things you listed. are directly effected by gender.

I would argue that the other one, technique, also favors men. Men have better mechanics because of musculo-skeletal structure: they've evolved to be the hunters and the warriors. Sure, women can have excellent technique,

 

[imissWECPalmer]

Honda would have caught Floyd (like she caught Holly) and she would have submitted him. Honda vs Holm was not a boxing match. Hollys boxing didn't stop the take down or submission. Those are important keys that made Holly not lose.

you realize men & women naturally have different type of muscle strengths right?

this has been talked about to death, but come on man! you think Floyd would just run up to Ronda & give her the clinch or would he back the fuck up use footwork push her off him & light her up with punches?? come on man!

 

[StephanieB]

The point that gender doesn't matter in the context of specific attributes is true though. It's a legitimate argument. The problem is that a male with the same power, speed, technique, etc. as Ronda Rousey is a recreational fighter with a soft physique and a .500 record in local shows. But it's still possible that guy could drag Floyd down and submit him.

We're not talking about you vs Ronda. We're talking about the average man vs Ronda. Ronda beats the average trained man(in any combat sport) like 1 out of 10 times with her only winning against someone who is complete dogshit. Just someone who sucked so bad at everything in life that they turned to mma(which I may add sometimes doesn't have a lot to do with athletic ability).

Yes Ronda can beat men in a grappling match, mma fight, and in the average street fight. But if you told most men(trained or untrained) that they would have to beat Ronda in a real fight or else he would lose his family or be rich if he won, and you told Ronda the same thing, then Ronda would lose most of the time.

My point is gender does matter to say the least. There's too many factors involved why you people believe such bullshit. No man has ever really fought a woman when it comes to a real fight. It's the way society is and how it affects people.

 

[SHAZAM]

Yeah, I thought Floyd would TKO her @ first (punches) now I know he'd knock her down with a Head kick them sub her. Armbar.

 

[BGDDYKWL]

I did. Ronda was so good at ragdolling people I figured she'd be able to close distance without THAT much trouble and easily take it from there. Now granted Holly has a lot more grappling training than Floyd, but Floyd also has WAY more power than Holly. Ronda got exposed here, plain and simple. The aura is gone, and the reality is she was a good fighter fighting 125ers who were pretty limited in terms of their skills/experience.

 

[Avenger]

Imagine someone who hits 3x harder than Holm. Imagine someone with far better footwork than Holm. Imagine someone with a 3-inch reach advantage over Holm but with the same height. Imagine someone 2x as fast and accurate as Holm. Imagine someone stronger than Holm. Now imagine someone more elusive, never been KO'ed or TKO'ed, ... that is fucking Floyd Mayweather.

Ronda is as hittable as anyone in the UFC. She does not have the reflexes, the speed, the strength, the durability, to withstand a combo from Money.

Floyd wins 9/10.

Stop feeding these idiots facts. They're still drunk on the Ronda kool-aid.

 

[Guy Smith]

you realize men & women naturally have different type of muscle strengths right?

this has been talked about to death, but come on man! you think Floyd would just run up to Ronda & give her the clinch or would he back the fuck up use footwork push her off him & light her up with punches?? come on man!

Men and woman have different muscle strengths. A group of 10 lazy men will all have different muscle strength. 10 active men will all have different muscle strength. That whole men vs woman muscle shit is so here and there and only relative case by case. Do you really think Pettis has Floyd arm memory? Do you really think Floyd has Pettis leg memory?

And of course I don't think Floyd will clinch with Ronda. Do I think Ronda would get lit up? Yes! Do I think Floyd would put 5 miles on his shoes? Yes!

 

[djacobox372]

I would argue that the other one, technique, also favors men. Men have better mechanics because of musculo-skeletal structure: they've evolved to be the hunters and the warriors. Sure, women can have excellent technique,

Mostly true, but one thing to note is that women have a significantly lower center of gravity compared to men, which would make a judo throw easier for ronda.

 

[r0b0d0c]

Mostly true, but one thing to note is that women have a significantly lower center of gravity compared to men, which would make a judo throw easier for ronda.

Good point. I think we could agree that Ronda could probably throw Floyd if she, by some miracle, was able to get close enough without eating 50 punches. What am I saying? This thread is retarded.

 

[adnatal]

Honda would have caught Floyd (like she caught Holly) and she would have submitted him. Honda vs Holm was not a boxing match. Hollys boxing didn't stop the take down or submission. Those are important keys that made Holly not lose.

No lol