Who beats Tyson Fury all time?

[treelo]

Foremans ability to absorb punches and keep coming forward combined with his jab and power is a bad fight for Fury, IMO. Would look like Cooney vs Foreman.

Cooney didnt move...at all, and was shit at any age...there is no way Fury is getting hit by an old Foreman to do enough damage

Foreman got battered by Axel Schultz and Tommy Morrison, and neither can move that well

 

[Seano]

Cooney and Fury are big, awkward looking, and Irish-level white.
I dont see much in common, otherwise.

I didn't say they had much in common. What do you think Fury is going to do? Slug it out and go toe to toe with Foreman? One of the best chins and biggest punchers in HW history?

I like Wilder a lot and respect Fury but beating Wilder has you guys thinking Fury is going to walk over everyone great from the past? Its ridiculous. Foreman is never going to stop coming forward and punching. Foreman outpoints him or knocks him out late. Fury's style plays right into Foreman's IMO.

 

[JayE]

I think an old Foreman loses to Fury. A young one, not so much.

 

[Seano]

Cooney didnt move...at all, and was shit at any age...there is no way Fury is getting hit by an old Foreman to do enough damage

Foreman got battered by Axel Schultz and Tommy Morrison, and neither can move that well

Fury got busted up by Otto Wallin and almost KO'd by Wilder and Steve Cunningham.

 

[Seano]

I think an old Foreman loses to Fury. A young one, not so much.

I kind of think old George is a worse fight for Fury.

 

[defjaam]

Cooney didnt move...at all, and was shit at any age...there is no way Fury is getting hit by an old Foreman to do enough damage

Foreman got battered by Axel Schultz and Tommy Morrison, and neither can move that well

He knows that... But he thinks that he's messing with Fury fans here, LOL... I find it funny, though it took me a bit to see where he's heading.

 

[Seano]

He knows that... But he thinks that he's messing with Fury fans here, LOL... I find it funny, though it took me a bit to see where he's heading.

I see where you're heading too, and thats trying to make this about me instead of the subject matter. Feel free to see yourself out and make a Seano thread. This one is about Fury vs all timers.

 

[mozfonky]

lol at Ken Norton. Ken Norton's success against Ali is a puzzler but he won 1 out of 3 there and was the HW divisions punching bag otherwise. I think people are going a little crazy with the Fury vs All Timers talk but he'd beat Norton without much trouble.

uh oh, did someone mention kenny with seano on the scene?

 

[mozfonky]

it's hard to say with fury, the comp isn't around to gauge him for all time. I haven't seen anyone, I expected him to beat klitschko easily and he did, who's around that can help us find out how good he is. he pretty much has an open field because he's got something not many fighters around have, he's got the mental part down, he's got a history of knowledge that not many heavyweights around have and no real comp. I don't think AJ beats him either.

 

[mozfonky]

Morrison beat Foreman, and Morrison wasn't as good as Fury on this back foot.
I think you know very well that Foreman loses this fight, LOL...

morrison boxed pretty good against foreman that night, that was his biggest and smartest win. Poor old george, at that point a mediocre fighter could beat him with a little lateral movement. Axel Schultz was another who probably should have gotten a decision.

 

[Seano]

uh oh, did someone mention kenny with seano on the scene?

KO victim to the HW elite. No way is he beating a giant like Fury.

 

[mozfonky]

Also, fury's power isn't something that i'm convinced would scare any of the heavyweights of the past, sure he's huge but we've only seen him really punch against wilder and since he didn't land but maybe 2 clean punches, it's hard to tell if he can really punch, but his other fights he's been content to box. I like fury, i just don't think there's any way we can really ask all time questions with what we know, the only possible thing is, he may possibly be too huge for the smaller heavyweights like frazier, marciano, patterson, tyson. I think the bigger guys would match or outmatch his skills and were just as tough mentally or more.

 

[treelo]

Fury got busted up by Otto Wallin and almost KO'd by Wilder and Steve Cunningham.

And there you have it.....are you really reducing yourself to those sort of posts?

 

[mozfonky]

KO victim to the HW elite. No way is he beating a giant like Fury.

Kenny only got kayoed by punchers though didn't he? with boxers he fought more or less even.

 

[Seano]

And there you have it.....are you really reducing yourself to those sort of posts?

What, looking at how well Fury did against lesser opposition in a discussion about a fantasy matchup? How weird!

Don't bother quoting me if you're going to be trying so hard to steer the conversation away from the subject matter and make it about me. I should be asking you if this is what you're reduced to. Seems like it.

 

[Seano]

Kenny only got kayoed by punchers though didn't he? with boxers he fought more or less even.

How about his loss to Garcia prior to his upset of Ali?

 

[defjaam]

What, looking at how well Fury did against lesser opposition in a discussion about a fantasy matchup? How weird!

Don't bother quoting me if you're going to be trying so hard to steer the conversation away from the subject matter and make it about me. I should be asking you if this is what you're reduced to. Seems like it.

You're really not giving people any other choice aside from making it about you.

 

[mozfonky]

How about his loss to Garcia prior to his upset of Ali?

Is that on film? I don't think i've ever seen it. but unless he's scared of fury it could be a battle. Kenny was a basketcase, you try to use science and skill he'll give you hell, you try to bust him good and he's a little kid. Smart, intelligent man, sometimes the over cerebral, (patterson) don't fare wll in the sport.

 

[Seano]

You're really not giving people any other choice aside from making it about you.

I just think you don't have the ability to make it about anything else. You're call me for mentioning Fury opponents who gave him issues a few posts ago when the post I was responding to was in regards to Foremans opponents who gave him issues. You sound like a butthurt fanboy who isn't really reading the thread, looking for people talking bad about his boy.
When a fighter can press Fury and take what he throws back, he can have success against Fury. Thats basically the definition of Foremans style. If Otto Wallin can walk through Furys best and land punches, I can't see what he is going to keep Foreman from doing so. If Wilder could drop Fury twice by basically throwing a few haymakers here and there, what is he going to do when faced with a stalker with the pressure, jab and punching power combo of Foreman?
I think its an obviously horrible matchup for Fury.
You guys are making Fury out to be a LOT more than he really is. He's currently the best of this era but what is that really saying? Beating an old Wlad and a guy that most fans are laughing at right now is a long way from beating established all time greats like Foreman.

 

[Seano]

Is that on film? I don't think i've ever seen it. but unless he's scared of fury it could be a battle. Kenny was a basketcase, you try to use science and skill he'll give you hell, you try to bust him good and he's a little kid. Smart, intelligent man, sometimes the over cerebral, (patterson) don't fare wll in the sport.

No, just newspaper articles and the like, so far as I know.