Who Actually Deserves The Next Middleweight Title Shot?

either bisping or weidman... bisping because of his wins and he has been around for awhile, or weidman because of style matchup
 
Smakdem said:
Well, in the last 6 years, Belcher has shored up his BJJ defense. And even if you don't agree that Belcher should get it, Boetsch, Bisping, and Rockhold all have better cases IMO.

And I don't dislike Weedman, or deny that he may have the best chance of beating Silva. He just doesn't have the record yet. Maybe if this was 2009, but the 185 division is strong now, and guys should get rewarded for putting in the work and not just being the flavor of the month.
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Not really. Weidman has 2 top ten wins. Boetsch has one, and arguably lost to Lombard, Bisping has maybe one (against Stann)... How are you even saying Luke Rockhold? Don't say it's because he's the strikeforce champ, a title he's had to defend against the likes of Keith Jardine :icon_lol:. If you don't like Weidman, just say it.
 
Not a single one of those guys. How about we let god decide since he exist right?
 
man spider could probably destroy all of them in one night. spider gotta fight bones jones.
 
Weidman right now. Bisping if he beats Belfort trumps Weidman though.
If Belcher beats Okami he's right up there as well.
 
Surely you can't be serious with some of these.

You have Bisping ahead of Weidman even though dude lost to every top fighter he fought? Unless Stann was top ten and if he was I'm not sure how he got there....

Belcher also cannot be ahead of Weidman, even if he does beat Okami, I'd still put Weidman ahead of him.

Still up for the account bet, I hear Diaz might get a shot.....
 
JammG said:
Not really. Weidman has 2 top ten wins. Boetsch has one, and arguably lost to Lombard, Bisping has maybe one (against Stann)... How are you even saying Luke Rockhold? Don't say it's because he's the strikeforce champ, a title he's had to defend against the likes of Keith Jardine :icon_lol:. If you don't like Weidman, just say it.
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Boetsch didn't lose to Lombard - but whatever. Unless you think two meaningless takedowns that resulted in nothing are more impressive than landing more significant strikes than your opponent. In all three rounds. But keep the revisionist history coming!!

As for Weidman, your statement shows how flawed the rankings are. At the time Weidman faced Maia - Maia was 4-3 in his last seven fights, with zero wins over top ten guys (sorry Dan Miller fans). Which proves that MMA rankings are no better than boxing rankings. And the fact that Maia is now fighting at 170 further illustrates my point. Top ten fighters don't just drop down - unless they know they aren't top ten anymore. Full marks to Weidman for his win over Munoz, and if Weidman wasn't going to be on the shelf - I'd have no problem with him getting the shot. Anderson would beat him. There, I said it.

Since the UFC is no longer about performance (as they have two challengers coming off losses fighting for two titles) ... what is going to happen is...

Bisping beats Belfort - and Bisping gets a title shot. In the UK. It will sell a lot of tickets - and do decent PPV numbers in North America.

So from now on, we can just pick which fights will sell the most - and whammo, those are the title matches to make.
 
What a bunch of BS, Weidman is easily the most deserving.
 
Silva vs. Cung Le is a fight I've always wanted to see. Everyone else besides them and Franklin are tied up with fights right now.
 
The boss'? Bruce Springsteen is gonna fight one of these guys?

And if you really want to make a Weidman hate thread than do it lol there's no need for these silly disguises
 
Workaholic said:
The boss'? Bruce Springsteen is gonna fight one of these guys?

And if you really want to make a Weidman hate thread than do it lol there's no need for these silly disguises
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It's not a hate thread.

Out of everyone I listed, Weedman's the only one I think ever will be champ. It's just potential.

But not now, and he doesn't deserve a title fight based off of wins against Maia and Munoz.

All I know about about Weedman is that he's a better wrestler than Alessio Sakarra, and he's a better striker than Maia. And he gets a title shot because of that? Please.

You can say Munoz was top 10 all you like, but it doesn't change the fact that he got a very lucky decision against Maia, and got a cut stoppage over an intoxicated Chris Leben, and those are FAR AND AWAY his two best wins. Munoz was a very very shaky top 10 win.
 
Weidman deserves it the most right now, though if Bisping beats Vitor or Belcher gets a top win it could even things up.
 
Konster said:
Surely you can't be serious with some of these.

You have Bisping ahead of Weidman even though dude lost to every top fighter he fought? Unless Stann was top ten and if he was I'm not sure how he got there....

Belcher also cannot be ahead of Weidman, even if he does beat Okami, I'd still put Weidman ahead of him.

Still up for the account bet, I hear Diaz might get a shot.....
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Until Weedman fights and beats the likes of Rashad Evans and Chael Sonnen, how on earth can you even compare the two?

Bisping was a hair's breath away from defeating those guys, and you're telling me that you think scraping by against Maia in a terrible stand up fight is more impressive than outclassing a legit striker like Stann?

Look, I think Weedman would beat every guy I listed, but let him actually do it before everyone acts like he's the next GSP.

Boetsch beating Okami off a loss >>>>>>>>>> beating Munoz after getting a cut stoppage over a Chris Leben who was high on Oxy.

Belcher outgrappling Paul Harris >>>>>>>>>> beating Munoz after getting a cut stoppage over a Chris Leben who was high on Oxy.

Rockhold beating Jacare in a 5 round fight >>>>>>>>>> beating Munoz after getting a cut stoppage over a Chris Leben who was high on Oxy.

Cung Le KOing Franklin >>>>>>>>>> beating Munoz after getting a cut stoppage over a Chris Leben who was high on Oxy.

Weedman's win's aren't as strong as people think. That's all.
 
Augustus Caesar said:
Boetch or Weidman, which is why that fight was perfect :(
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This guy nailed it, that fight was the number 1 contender match, it sucks that Weidman got hurt. I think now that Weidman got hurt there really isn't a clear number 1 guy, Boetch would be the next best guy but he is fighting Philippou and if he wins he still wont be much closer to a title shot.

I think that who ever looks best of the contenders, Boetch, Bisping, Vitor, or Belcher(I left out Okami because he already fought Anderson twice and would need to do more) should fight Weidman to determine the number 1 contender but it still might not matter, who knows when Anderson will come back to MW.
 
Smakdem said:
It's not a hate thread.

Out of everyone I listed, Weedman's the only one I think ever will be champ. It's just potential.

But not now, and he doesn't deserve a title fight based off of wins against Maia and Munoz.

All I know about about Weedman is that he's a better wrestler than Alessio Sakarra, and he's a better striker than Maia. And he gets a title shot because of that? Please.

You can say Munoz was top 10 all you like, but it doesn't change the fact that he got a very lucky decision against Maia, and got a cut stoppage over an intoxicated Chris Leben, and those are FAR AND AWAY his two best wins. Munoz was a very very shaky top 10 win.
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It might not be a hate thread but you clearly hate Weidman, you can't even spell his name right, your doing it on purpose because you don't like him, its pretty clear to see that, and you are discrediting his wins all over the place.
 
Smakdem said:
Until Weedman fights and beats the likes of Rashad Evans and Chael Sonnen, how on earth can you even compare the two?

Bisping was a hair's breath away from defeating those guys, and you're telling me that you think scraping by against Maia in a terrible stand up fight is more impressive than outclassing a legit striker like Stann?

Look, I think Weedman would beat every guy I listed, but let him actually do it before everyone acts like he's the next GSP.

Boetsch beating Okami off a loss >>>>>>>>>> Munoz after getting a cut stoppage over a Chris Leben who was high on Oxy.

Belcher outgrappling Paul Harris >>>>>>>>>> Munoz after getting a cut stoppage over a Chris Leben who was high on Oxy.

Rockhold beating Jacare in a 5 round fight >>>>>>>>>> Munoz after getting a cut stoppage over a Chris Leben who was high on Oxy.
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Even though both fights were very close, Bisping lost both of them. Let's not act like losing to them is some sort of accomplishment, because it's not.

Never seen anyone say that Stann is a legit striker, dude has heavy hands, that's about it. If I'm not mistake, Weidman lost a lot of weight in a very short period of time, that just might have had something to do with it.

Not a fan of Weidman and don't think he's the next GSP either, I just think he deserves it more than anyone listed in the OP.

I agree about the Boetsch/Okami part, even though Okami was beating the shit out of Tim.

Leben was a few fights away from a title shot I believe, I think beating him is more impressive than beating Palhares.

Weidman is undefeated in his career and has actual top wins and I'd like to see him get a shot even though I think he will lose.
 
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