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Crime White Supremacist who pleaded guilty for Charlottesville attack begs for mercy before sentencing

Right. She just happened to have a bunch of Antifa rubbish on her social media and Antifa honors her as a member because they think that would be cool.

Standing up to them? They went there with weapons to attack people and violate their rights. You are saying that's fine, but that's a totalitarian perspective. People have ignored these rallies for decades. They happen all over the place in many countries.


"People have ignored these rallies for decades. They happen all over the place in many countries."

<Huh2>
 
I supplied an allusion to a recent example that gained headline traction with Kim K pursuing amnesty "exoneration" for Kevin Cooper:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life...cision-exonerate-death-row-inmate/1327408001/

A similar example that angered me was one the television show The Newsroom dredged up that convinced a bunch of liberals overnight who previously knew nothing about the case that Troy Davis was an innocent little dough-eyed standerby because, you know, racism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Davis
What If Troy Davis Was Innocent?
World shocked by U.S. execution of Troy Davis

I notice that swift justice and the death penalty never seem to bother these same people when it's an unrepentant white supremacist under the microscope.

So your post was not directed at liberals on this board, and not even directed at liberals in general. Your post was directed at the relatively small portion of people (that you are just assuming are liberals, but may not even be liberals) who have made statements regarding Troy Davis or Kevin Cooper. It seemed like you were speaking directly to people on this board who had defended murderers, but I guess that's not the case.

There are always cases that come to public consciousness that cause people to defend convicted murderers due to a belief that they may not have been treated fairly by the law. That is not a race-based response, it's a justice-based response. I noticed that you left out the most glaring and popular example of this, which is the "Making a Murderer" case, which involved the country bumpkin white murderer Steven Avery that "liberals" (we might at as well keep making sweeping assumptions) rallied around.
 
Should have been a 2nd degree or manslaughter charge. He was overcharged, big time. Driving back into a group he may have needed to escape for his safety, and killing somebody in doing so, means he should lose a decade or so, but not his whole life.
 
Should have been a 2nd degree or manslaughter charge. He was overcharged, big time. Driving back into a group he may have needed to escape for his safety, and killing somebody in doing so, means he should lose a decade or so, but not his whole life.

Wow I didn't realize you were this big of an asshole.
 
Right. She just happened to have a bunch of Antifa rubbish on her social media and Antifa honors her as a member because they think that would be cool.
Are you really this dumb?

Heather Heyer was a paralegal. She went out with her friends after work to march peacefully.

A disturbed Nazi sympathizer with a picture of Adolf Hitler on his nightstand murdered her in cold blood.

If you don’t understand why Antifa groups would honor her memory, then you really are as dumb as a rock.

Standing up to them? They went there with weapons to attack people and violate their rights. You are saying that's fine, but that's a totalitarian perspective. People have ignored these rallies for decades. They happen all over the place in many countries.
Please show me the weapon that Heather Heyer was wielding before she was murdered with a 4500 lb car.

She was out there with her friends to celebrate the cancellation of the Neo Nazi March when this coward decided to stage his unprovoked attack.

In other words, fuck off with your bullshit. The jury got this one right.
 
Wow I didn't realize you were this big of an asshole.
I'm speaking legally. His act was reckless, and he should have known that the likelihood of a person dying was too high to commit the act. Without any premeditated intent to kill an individual, in this case Heather, and especially in a situation where the group of perps were also aggressive, this is a depraved heart/2nd degree murder situation. IF it was found that it was the group attacked him first, or put him in physical danger, then the escalation would generally be manslaughter.

They got it wrong for politics.
 
Source on it being racist? It certainly was a hate crime. He even pleaded guilty.

Seems like you are just trying to make excuses. Making stuff up to downplay murderous Nazis.
How was it a hate crime again? He hated the group of people, mostly white, he ran back into?

Yeah.. Most people who commit violent acts that result in death hate those they commit the act against.
 
Could you explain this a bit? I'm not entirely sure what you're communicating here.
The narrative goes that this obese woman in black with the cigarettes is Heyer and she didn't get hit by the car, she died from a heart attack. It could be Heyer because she is around the same age, weight and she is white.
The problems are:
-If you cause somebody to have a heart attack by hitting a bunch of people with a car you can still get charged.
-It's probably not Heyer.
Other pics:
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The woman in a teal shirt is also an obese white woman but:
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The grey hair makes it seem it's not Heyer either.
 

He wasn't surrounded, the streets seem pretty empty around the impeccable pig.

I don't mind he got life, really. I don't like the hate crime designation. They were basically all white, and mobbing leftists and antifa are not a """protected class."""
 
Wow I didn't realize you were this big of an asshole.
He hates women, so not surprised that he is okay with one being murdered.
Honestly, just don't show up and don't make a fuss and it all goes away. Think Memphis or Nashville did that to MLK. Guy would March and be like, we're here and black come attack us, and nothing would happen. So they went to Birmingham for publicly.
Don't show up and no one would care.

The Nazi march was already canceled by the time he ran over the crowd.

The same shitty people who whine about Mexican flags on pickup trucks and rainbow flags “being shoved down their throat” sure seem to be okay with the flag that represents a regime that killed thousands of Americans being carried openly in the streets.

Just looking the other way isn’t enough.
 
So your post was not directed at liberals on this board, and not even directed at liberals in general. Your post was directed at the relatively small portion of people (that you are just assuming are liberals, but may not even be liberals) who have made statements regarding Troy Davis or Kevin Cooper. It seemed like you were speaking directly to people on this board who had defended murderers, but I guess that's not the case.

There are always cases that come to public consciousness that cause people to defend convicted murderers due to a belief that they may not have been treated fairly by the law. That is not a race-based response, it's a justice-based response. I noticed that you left out the most glaring and popular example of this, which is the "Making a Murderer" case, which involved the country bumpkin white murderer Steven Avery that "liberals" (we might at as well keep making sweeping assumptions) rallied around.
They are liberals. Sorkin is a liberal. Daniels (who supported the message his character delivered in that show) is liberal. Kim K supported Hillary. Liberal posters on this board argued for Troy Davis when that topic arose.

So, no, actually, the notion of exonerating convicted felons hinging on prejudicial biases that racism was the primary source of their merit is a fixedly leftist cause.
 
"People have ignored these rallies for decades. They happen all over the place in many countries."

<Huh2>

What's hard to understand, even on Sherdog?

These rallies are a joke. Like a dozen people show up and no one pays attention to them until Trump was elected. Now they get all kinds of media coverage and groups like Antifa show up to get the publicity and start trouble.
 
He hates women, so not surprised that he is okay with one being murdered.


The Nazi march was already canceled by the time he ran over the crowd.

The same shitty people who whine about Mexican flags on pickup trucks and rainbow flags “being shoved down their throat” sure seem to be okay with the flag that represents a regime that killed thousands of Americans being carried openly in the streets.

Just looking the other way isn’t enough.
Think not going to a thousand person rally in southern Virginia is pretty reasonable. Giving them attention, is what they want. Going and yelling and attacking them isn't going to do anything but give them attention. Whataboutisms doesn't apply here. It was a small rally, and if ignored it would have done nothing for them. Instead they got all kinds of free Press they otherwise don't get
 
Are you really this dumb?

Heather Heyer was a paralegal. She went out with her friends after work to march peacefully.

A disturbed Nazi sympathizer with a picture of Adolf Hitler on his nightstand murdered her in cold blood.

If you don’t understand why Antifa groups would honor her memory, then you really are as dumb as a rock.
.

She's a paralegal, egro she can't be part of Antifa? OK. Interesting.

She had Antifa shit all over her social media before it was all scrubbed ala Christine Blasey Ford.

Antifa honors her all the time. I doubt they formal cards, but she was part of Antifa at the protest and as such, part of the group that went there specifically to engage in violence. It's not hard to understand that whatever the actions of this loser, the incident would not have happened if Antifa and other such groups had not shown up there to create the situation that got her killed.

As I said, no one in the media paid attention to these rallies until Trump got into office and they had to find someway to link him to them.
 
I'm speaking legally. His act was reckless, and he should have known that the likelihood of a person dying was too high to commit the act. Without any premeditated intent to kill an individual, in this case Heather, and especially in a situation where the group of perps were also aggressive, this is a depraved heart/2nd degree murder situation. IF it was found that it was the group attacked him first, or put him in physical danger, then the escalation would generally be manslaughter.

They got it wrong for politics.


Under a “statement of facts,” Fields admitted that he “expressed and promoted” white supremacist ideology through his social media accounts and engaged in white supremacist chants during the rally in Charlottesville. He also admitted driving his car into the ethnically diverse crowd of anti-racism protesters because of their race, color, religion or national origin.

Your interpretation of the law is retarded and you shouldn't bother trying again in the future. By your logic you can't murder anyone you don't already know.
 
I'm speaking legally. His act was reckless, and he should have known that the likelihood of a person dying was too high to commit the act. Without any premeditated intent to kill an individual, in this case Heather, and especially in a situation where the group of perps were also aggressive, this is a depraved heart/2nd degree murder situation. IF it was found that it was the group attacked him first, or put him in physical danger, then the escalation would generally be manslaughter.

They got it wrong for politics.
But there isnt even any evidence he was ever under attack
 
What's hard to understand, even on Sherdog?

These rallies are a joke. Like a dozen people show up and no one pays attention to them until Trump was elected. Now they get all kinds of media coverage and groups like Antifa show up to get the publicity and start trouble.
So everything was okay with the peaceful Nazis (James Fields included) until those nosy Antifa kids got involved?

The mental gymnastics here is astounding.
 
Under a “statement of facts,” Fields admitted that he “expressed and promoted” white supremacist ideology through his social media accounts and engaged in white supremacist chants during the rally in Charlottesville. He also admitted driving his car into the ethnically diverse crowd of anti-racism protesters because of their race, color, religion or national origin.

Your interpretation of the law is retarded and you shouldn't bother trying again in the future. By your logic you can't murder anyone you don't already know.
Did he use those words, or are you just using the fact he plead guilty, and citing the language of the law? Did he have a public defender? Yeah shut up idiot. You left out the thing that would have scored you a point, driving into a group blocking a road they shouldn't be in with the intent to murder could potentially lead to a first degree, if there was any substantial premeditation. Oh, and 2nd degree murder, is murder. If he had the direct, premeditated attempt to murder, then first degree is ok. The video posted looks really bad for him, I have to say.
 
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