Movies Which movie is better: Collateral or Training Day

Cruise and Foxx's performances were better than Denzel's and Hawk's? lol. Cruise played quite a generic hitman. I thought Hawk's performance was probably the standout of all. the range of emotions he showed throughout was amazing. Your analysis of the script and relationships also seems completely back to front.

I don't remember asking what you think.

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Collateral for me. Never that big a fan of Training Day tbh.
 
I rewatched COLLATERAL with my son recently and we concluded its an absolutely badass, atmospheric film.
Now one of our all-time favourites.

Training Day was cool as hell when I was a teenager but I find Michael Mann's work deeper and more watchable now.
 
I remember Tarantino saying something about Collateral being "too blue"....But I think it's great.
 
This from the guy who gave a script of his to Mr. Too Yellow?

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Collateral would have been better if the last hit wasn't on Jada and Tom cruise lives with Jamie Foxx getting charged with the crimes. The film ends with Jamie using his phone call to call Jada because she gives him her business card saying if you ever need a lawyer call me.

Would have been way way better
 
Been re-watching Collateral for 25 minutes. Maybe the slight gripe is Ruffalo as the detective is a bit far fetched.

EDIT: Goddamn, gas at a Shell station in 2004 LA was $1.83.
 
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Both are really good, I think training day. It does a better job of you getting to know Alonzo > Cruises character. Cruise played the part very well. The endings Training day > Collateral. Both are great films though, prequals of both those villains would be awesome to see or even sequels just say they survived the shooting or something lol.
 
Training Day just for Ethan Hawkes characters development vs Jamie Foxxes.

Both driving villains are near equal, with Denzel pulling slightly ahead due to screen time.
 
I rewatched COLLATERAL with my son recently and we concluded its an absolutely badass, atmospheric film.
Now one of our all-time favourites.

Training Day was cool as hell when I was a teenager but I find Michael Mann's work deeper and more watchable now.
That's Mann in a nutshell. He's one of the few directors who is really hard to appreciate on the first view, but will build appreciation in nearly all viewers with with each repeated viewing.

I don't like everything he does, but there's almost always a depth that hides in plain sight.
 
Collateral would have been better if the last hit wasn't on Jada and Tom cruise lives with Jamie Foxx getting charged with the crimes. The film ends with Jamie using his phone call to call Jada because she gives him her business card saying if you ever need a lawyer call me.

Would have been way way better

maybe it's realistic that tom cruise would get away temporarily and foxx would get the blame, but wouldn't that also be a downer? weird character arc for sure. goes from being an underachiever to developing courage and confidence then to rock bottom who's charged and loses his cab license?

foxx would also get cleared when they look at the club's security footage. now that you think about it, these days cruise would get caught real quick, so how do hits even work these days?
 
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