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Movies Which movie is better: Collateral or Training Day

speaking of mann, heat 2 is in preproduction and could see shooting this year.

leo dicaprio, christian bale, and others. having leo on is a good sign, he usually doesn't accept bad movies.

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Not a huge fan of collateral. I don't think Cruise really worked for me as a hitman for some reason. Could say he was miscast, and I think the ending fizzled out when he gets taken out by a cab driver.
 
Now this is a tough one, two awesome movies that are pretty evenly matched. I would have to go with collateral overall but only by the thinnest of margins.
 
gonna be training day for me.

it is nostalgic for me. Plus Ethan Hawke putting hands on Denzel is pretty crazy.

Early Mann is my jam but collateral never hit those same highs for me. Eventhough Cruise did a great job, and there were some great scenes.
 
Collateral by a lot. Denzel being Denzel rules (though ironically he's not even in the best scene of the movie when he leaves Ethan Hawke behind with the Mexicans) but Cruise's performance is better than Denzel's, Foxx's performance is better than Hawke's, the script is WAY better, their relationship is WAY richer, the action set-pieces are WAY better. Collateral outpacing Training Day is no knock on Training Day, it's just an indication of HOW amazing Collateral is.
 
Collateral is my favorite movie so going with that. Being objective they are both so good it is nearly impossible to say which one is really better.

But Collateral is just great to look at. The cinematography is nuts.
 
Collateral by a lot. Denzel being Denzel rules (though ironically he's not even in the best scene of the movie when he leaves Ethan Hawke behind with the Mexicans) but Cruise's performance is better than Denzel's, Foxx's performance is better than Hawke's, the script is WAY better, their relationship is WAY richer, the action set-pieces are WAY better. Collateral outpacing Training Day is no knock on Training Day, it's just an indication of HOW amazing Collateral is.

Cruise and Foxx's performances were better than Denzel's and Hawk's? lol. Cruise played quite a generic hitman. I thought Hawk's performance was probably the standout of all. the range of emotions he showed throughout was amazing. Your analysis of the script and relationships also seems completely back to front.
 
Cruise and Foxx's performances were better than Denzel's and Hawk's? lol. Cruise played quite a generic hitman. I thought Hawk's performance was probably the standout of all. the range of emotions he showed throughout was amazing. Your analysis of the script and relationships also seems completely back to front.
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Both had badass villains, played by guys who are usually heroes.

Both had amazing setups but disappointing conclusions.

But only one had Jamie Foxx, and he sucks, so that one is the loser.
Both also take place within a single day/night.

That actually still throws me about Training Day. The amount of shit that goes down in one day is pretty absurd. Collateral seems more grounded in time.
 
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