Where is the Joker Jack Hermansson?

[Tweak896]

"It's my job to offer these guys three fights a year"

Yeah, imagine if we could see the 3 fights offered a year for every fighter. Now that shit would be interesting.

 

[BigTruck]

It's hilarious how fighter pay threads increased while fighter activity decreased in the UFC. I wish fighters fought 3-5x a year and paid big for it.

2-4 should be expected and imo 3 should be the standard expectation. 4 fights seems to be the standard on a contract so I'd want to get 3 or 4 in a year to get that shit bumped up ASAP and if you're confident in yourself you'll take on anyone.

 

[Tweak896]

2-4 should be expected and imo 3 should be the standard expectation. 4 fights seems to be the standard on a contract so I'd want to get 3 or 4 in a year to get that shit bumped up ASAP and if you're confident in yourself you'll take on anyone.

I get it that if a fighter trains for a year for his opponent he'll be better prepared than someone who jumps in for 2 months, but at the same time we are reaching the point where guys want to do longer camps than fans can remember who they are to be interested. Back in 2010 and earlier, everyone knew they didn't have too long to train up but just did what they could. Guys like Pereira are revered for a reason, stepping up without waiting 6 months. Divisions would be churning and we would get to see who really is top of the rank.

 

[BigTruck]

I get it that if a fighter trains for a year for his opponent he'll be better prepared than someone who jumps in for 2 months, but at the same time we are reaching the point where guys want to do longer camps than fans can remember who they are to be interested. Back in 2010 and earlier, everyone knew they didn't have too long to train up but just did what they could. Guys like Pereira are revered for a reason, stepping up without waiting 6 months. Divisions would be churning and we would get to see who really is top of the rank.

2-3 month camo should be plenty of time to prepare imo, you shouldn't be getting fat as fuck between camps like fatty pimblett

 

[fortheo]

Last time I checked he was dealing with ongoing back issues

 

[fortheo]

It's become so normalized for fighters to only fight once a year. I just realized Olivera has only had 2 fights in 2 years since losing title to Islam. There should be more penalties to rankings for time to fights.

Oliveira is like 50 fights deep in his career, older, and a huge name in the sport. He isn't going to be fighting as often as other young contenders.

What sucks is the young guys coming up who fight just as little.

 

[Tweak896]

Oliveira is like 50 fights deep in his career, older, and a huge name in the sport. He isn't going to be fighting as often as other young contenders.

What sucks is the young guys coming up who fight just as little.

I get it, Olivera always felt active, so I was shocked looking at his recent record, 1-2 since 2022 (3 fights), still ranked #2 at LW. I like him as a fighter too, I'm no hater, but all the divisions are starting to jam up with guys higher ranks, losing recent records, low activity. It's definitely bizarre. Also the only way to get ranked next to them is to fight them, so its a catch 22. When we had unofficial rankings at sherdog back in the day, guys who weren't active would drop rank numbers, there needs to be something similar.

 

[fortheo]

I get it, Olivera always felt active, so I was shocked looking at his recent record, 1-2 since 2022 (3 fights), still ranked #2 at LW. I like him as a fighter too, I'm no hater, but all the divisions are starting to jam up with guys higher ranks, losing recent records, low activity. It's definitely bizarre. Also the only way to get ranked next to them is to fight them, so its a catch 22. When we had unofficial rankings at sherdog back in the day, guys who weren't active would drop rank numbers, there needs to be something similar.

Bad matchmaking only compounds the issue too. I mean, charles and chandler could and should both be giving younger contenders a shot to climb the rankings. What do we get instead? A pointless rematch that doesn't move the division much at all. We get horrible matchmaking like this all the damn time

 

[Tweak896]

Nad matchmaking only compounds the issue too. I mean, charles and chandler could and should both be giving younger contenders a shot to climb the rankings. What do we get instead? A pointless rematch that doesn't move the division much at all. We get horrible matchmaking like this all the damn time

It's almost a sick joke how many times the UFC has paired up the top 5 lightweights with each other. Don't get me wrong that they aren't bad, but I feel like we've been stuck in Dustin/Gaethje/Chandler/Olivera combos for a long time. Throw in Max/Conor/Khabib's names as well.

#2 Olivera 1-2 since 2022
#3 Gaethje 2-2 since 2022
#4 Dustin 2-2 since 2021 (fought Conor 2x before)
#5 Max 1-1 since 2019 (at LW, obviously special case)
#6 Hooker 3-2 since 2021 (2 split decisions)
#7 Chandler 1-4 since 2021

It's about to be 2025, not only are most the wins and losses against each other, but it's a bad record to be top of the division so long. They gave Fiziev and BSD a shot to break through, only Arman made it. The way the guys in LW talk is that it's not worth fighting anyone ranked below because they are "no names". I think this is creating ranking bubbles if UFC continues this and all these guys can stay top 10 until they are 50 years old.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Good question, haven't heard about him in quite some time, he used to do interviews a lot with Ariel, but I haven't seen him in a long time even do a interview. I always liked him, seemed like a super nice guy and very chilled and down to earth.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

He should fight 'the Riddler' RDR for batman's heart

I mentioned in another thread that would have been a much better main event this weekend

 

[BEATDOWNS]

#2 Olivera 1-2 since 2022
#3 Gaethje 2-2 since 2022
#4 Dustin 2-2 since 2021 (fought Conor 2x before)
#5 Max 1-1 since 2019 (at LW, obviously special case)
#6 Hooker 3-2 since 2021 (2 split decisions)
#7 Chandler 1-4 since 2021

If you are going to compare stats shouldn't it all be from the same year? not just cherry picking the year that makes the fighter look better/worse for whatever your agenda is..

 

[Tweak896]

If you are going to compare stats shouldn't it all be from the same year? not just cherry picking the year that makes the fighter look better/worse for whatever your agenda is..

I'm cherry picking but it's ridiculous a top 10 division is filled with recent records like that. It takes a fall like Tony to get out of top LW rankings. He probably could've fought less and only top guys and ranked higher than Chandler today.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

I'm cherry picking but it's ridiculous a top 10 division is filled with recent records like that. It takes a fall like Tony to get out of top LW rankings. He probably could've fought less and only top guys and ranked higher than Chandler today.

lets do it right we will start at 2019 as that is the earliest year you chose.

#2 Olivera 1-2 since 2022 since 2019 - 9-2
#3 Gaethje 2-2 since 2022 since 2019 - 6-3
#4 Dustin 2-2 since 2021 (fought Conor 2x before) since 2019 - 6-4
#5 Max 1-1 since 2019 (at LW, obviously special case)
#6 Hooker 3-2 since 2021 (2 split decisions) since 2019 - 7-4
#7 Chandler 1-4 since 2021 since 2019 - 4-3

but yeah Lightweight has been bottle necked at the top for way too long. imho

 

[TriangleMonkey]

Prob waiting for the Bo Nickal call

 

[Tweak896]

lets do it right we will start at 2019 as that is the earliest year you chose.

#2 Olivera 1-2 since 2022 since 2019 - 9-2
#3 Gaethje 2-2 since 2022 since 2019 - 6-3
#4 Dustin 2-2 since 2021 (fought Conor 2x before) since 2019 - 6-4
#5 Max 1-1 since 2019 (at LW, obviously special case)
#6 Hooker 3-2 since 2021 (2 split decisions) since 2019 - 7-4
#7 Chandler 1-4 since 2021 since 2019 - 4-3

but yeah Lightweight has been bottle necked at the top for way too long. imho

I don't particularly hate the fighters, I will not miss a single fight of theirs. They have a big resume and history. I'm just saying the rankings have stalled and can't believe in 2024 we're getting another internal rematch with Chandler/Olivera. Probably will be a fun fight.

Still LW has a host of good fighters that probably would mix up the rankings. Arman, win or lose, probably would be trouble for many of them and people have known that. Yet it took forever to get a Olivera fight. I know there are a couple others as well.