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maybe he's around #5. he got his ass kicked by rampage in pride when both were in their primes, and got beat again by him in the ufc. rampage has to be above him.
in terms of overall rankings, he's not above jones of course, or dc, or wanderlei (wand lost to him when wand was way out of his prime), or rampage, and i don't think he's above shogun. shogun was out of his prime and still beat liddell. he's at #4 or #5 in my mind.
in terms of overall rankings, he's not above jones of course, or dc, or wanderlei (wand lost to him when wand was way out of his prime), or rampage, and i don't think he's above shogun. shogun was out of his prime and still beat liddell. he's at #4 or #5 in my mind.