Media Whenever you feel compelled to mindlessly hate on Rogan

[mixmastermo]

When you learn how deep Rogan is into

meditation, mysticism, the occult and esoteric, the psychedelic world

It's actually quite the opposite.

Rogan is vastly more intelligent than most people think he is

Or even that he himself let's on

He plays the role of the fool or jester of sorts, intentionally dumbing himself down for his audience. However, when he comes out of that shell, particularly with specific guests, it becomes clear just how much he actually knows.

Many influencers do this as well. They play dumb, but they're the furthest thing from it. It makes you more relatable to the general audience.

He has specific areas of expertise like nutrition, health, comedy, martial arts, but he's very adept in a vast array of different fields, even if he's not necessarily an expert in them. What's impressive is mostly his adaptability and sheer versatility, which is often only possible with an incredibly open mind that is relatively free of biases.

I wouldn't call him an intellectual. So, to call him a psuedo intellectual is disingenuous and misguided. He is quite adept at critical thinking though, I'd say his intellectual capacity is serviceable, but his intelligence is mostly coming from a wider array of characteristics than any one thing. He has a lot of wisdom and intuitive intelligence, while also being world class at understanding social intelligence and psychology.

I always believe how Rogan is viewed to be a reasonable intelligence test. The smarter you are, the more intelligent you realize he is. It's almost always the dumbest people who say stuff like you and genuinely believe he's an idiot. This is the lowest common denominator of knowledge and public consciousness.

Because his knowledge is so varied across a wide array of fields, it requires a similar level of diversity and depth to actually see and understand where he's adept.

Most people don't even have casual levels of knowledge in the vast majority of these topics, so there's only so much they can even see, hence why he's such a good intelligence test.

A lot of people like yourself simply repeat what others have told you, rather than any serious analysis or independent thought of your own and unfortunately these surface level perceptions become a mindless hive mind of sorts.

This same energy is responsible for most of the bad analysis that dominates most sports.

k

You're gonna believe whatever you want to believe. Just remember this is the guy who said Ronda was a once ever human being. This is the guy who never had a pro fight and got embarrassed on air by Dominic Cruz about weight cutting

Oh and then there's stuff like this

Joe Rogan Has Built His Career on Anti-Science Misinformation. I Should Know Because I Was On the Receiving End

Joe Rogan is one example of a wider problem in our age of misinformation.

www.prosocial.world

If you can't concede any of that, I can't help you.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

I'd say it's pretty mindless. A lot of petty nitpicking over nothing by people who spend way too much time looking for things to hate.

I don't have a hater bone in me, so perhaps it's hard for me to ever find the validity in such a mentality and energy.

That being said,

It's his job to bring the hyperbole.

Hes there to entertain at this point, not be the most effective analyst. That's why DC is there.

Obviously his analysis is still good when it needs to be, but overall, he's there to bring entertainment value for the general audience.

Only, DC is not an effective analyst. He phones it in these days and doesn’t appear to do any prep for these events. But I get your point about Joe.

 

[AmonTobin]

Well, a lack of depth is a common issue with most of your takes and thinking in general.

So, I would say it's par for the course that there's only so much you can see here as well.

Seems like a common trend of those who go out of their way to nitpick flaws in psychology and intellect

Also tend to be hater types in general.

Which begs the question, where is it actually coming from.

These sorts of reads tell you a lot about those making the critiques, their own limitations, insecurities and projections.

Truly intelligent and secure people don't go out of their way to point out and nitpick any conceivable flaw in another man, while also casually glancing over strengths and potentials.

Only those weak of character, dominated by their own biases and emotions, rather than reason. To truly analyze a topic in a deep and meaningful way requires freedom from such petty trivialities.

The lady doth pontificate too much, me thinks.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

The whole idea of mindlessly hating Rogan comes from someone without the insight to understand why people don't like Rogan; it's self-explanatory.

Like, "Why would you hate Rogan?" Well, if you have to ask......

ROFL at these posts making Rogan out to be this guru on human intelligence and depth. This guy spends endless time spouting on UFOs and bizarre shit. He is no different than your typical yoyo on Facebook posting weird conspiracies and getting idiots to buy into them.

I listened to his podcast for years, but he’s been out of fresh ideas for a long time. He recycles a lot of the same guests and every episode is deja vu.

He has turned very right wing in his older age and his shows now regularly devolve into a bitch fest about transgenders. Something about that issue really got under his skin and he can’t let it go. He was the same way about veganism for a while.

I don’t really care what side of the issues he’s on, it just seems to worm its way into every discussion. I never listened to Joe for his intellect or stance on social issues.

 

[Substance Abuse]

I promise, when I hate on this DMT and Alpha Brain riddled, midget ass clown with an overblown sense of self-importance, it'll be informed hate, not mindless hate.

 

[chinarice]

Oh no, someone can beat me up, i better not make fun of or hate on them! lol what a deluded way of thinking.

I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo scared.....

 

[AstralPanda]

k

You're gonna believe whatever you want to believe. Just remember this is the guy who said Ronda was a once ever human being. This is the guy who never had a pro fight and got embarrassed on air by Dominic Cruz about weight cutting

Oh and then there's stuff like this

Joe Rogan Has Built His Career on Anti-Science Misinformation. I Should Know Because I Was On the Receiving End

Joe Rogan is one example of a wider problem in our age of misinformation.

www.prosocial.world

If you can't concede any of that, I can't help you.

What I believe is incredibly diverse and multi faceted

I don't focus on any one thing when analyzing anything or anyone

It's very easy for people to cherry pick any conceivable negative tidbits about a person and disingenuously construct a half truth narrative about someone.

Which is that much easier in this generation when everything is clipped and taken out of context whenever it suits a specific agenda.

i don't exist with those sorts of biases, I look at the full picture and analyze things objectively.

I think you're doing everything in your power to judge people within a very distorted lens, which obviously aligns with some sort of woke, liberal, political leaning.

People like you aren't interested in the truth, only what exists within your own limited echo chamber.

You're nothing more than a parrot for the message of whatever your cult leaders are pushing, there's no actual independent thought in your world. You don't think for yourself, you allow others to do the thinking for you.

Which is the irony of claiming someone thinks they're smarter than they are. Projection is quite a potent drug.

 

[AstralPanda]

I listened to his podcast for years, but he’s been out of fresh ideas for a long time. He recycles a lot of the same guests and every episode is deja vu.

He has turned very right wing in his older age and his shows now regularly devolve into a bitch fest about transgenders. Something about that issue really got under his skin and he can’t let it go. He was the same way about veganism for a while.

I don’t really care what side of the issues he’s on, it just seems to worm its way into every discussion. I never listened to Joe for his intellect or stance on social issues.

I think when you do psychedelics, you realize how unimportant politics and these petty social squabbles actually are.

As such, Rogan has never been political or adopted a stance either way.

You also tend to realize that political parties and both sides of every discussion are often controlled by the same hands. Much like how both sides of a war are have been funded throughout history by the same party who is looking to create wealth, power and control in a risk like chess move.

Those who mindlessly pick a side tend to be the lowest common denominator of public consciousness.


That being said, when you have such a platform, you're more or less forced to adopt certain narratives or ideologies, at least on the surface. You can tell when Rogan is just sort of being a good company man, so to speak. His shilling is quite transparent, and is unlikely a reflection of how he actually thinks behind the scenes.

Rogan's intelligence is seen more when he removes those masks, of which there are many.

Most people will judge based on those masks, but don't see or understand the larger picture behind them or are even aware of their existence.

The same is true for his commentary. He's gotten criticism for the quality of his casting going down, but people don't seem to understand that his role has been different since goldy got canned.

 

[joy2day]

I think you're doing everything in your power to judge people within a very distorted lens, which obviously aligns with some sort of woke, liberal, political leaning.

ROFL at this post. This long list of claims about what a devoutly objective and nonjudgemental person you are, then you go ahead and expose that you are merely spouting ideological talking points. All you said with a bunch of window dressing is that those on the other side of the political spectrum from you are wrong; nothing objective or nonjudgemental at all, just standard Internet blabbering.

 

[AstralPanda]

Only, DC is not an effective analyst. He phones it in these days and doesn’t appear to do any prep for these events. But I get your point about Joe.

DC is a great analyst when he needs to be.

But I think the entire commentary is dedicated towards casuals.

They aren't going out of their way to provide the most elite analysis possible for people like us.

The vast majority of fans responsible for the viewership are untrained casuals. They're both trying to entertain and articulate things in a very dumbed down way.

 

[Rio Ferdinand]

If this was prison, I'd make this manlet my girlfriend.

 

[AstralPanda]

ROFL at this post. This long list of claims about what a devoutly objective and nonjudgemental person you are, then you go ahead and expose that you are merely spouting ideological talking points. All you said with a bunch of window dressing is that those on the other side of the political spectrum from you are wrong; nothing objective or nonjudgemental at all, just standard Internet blabbering.

I don't exist on any political spectrum, not even a little bit.

At the same time, there is a certain type of thinking, biases and limitations which is inherent with that political leaning.

I merely acknowledged that this is the cult like narrative and energy he is seems to be mindlessly pushing.

Picking either side will lead to these sorts of biases. Right, left, it doesn't matter. Only way anyone can arrive at the truth and any semblance of objectivity is by being in the middle.

This sort of cherry picking is only ever going to lead to a biased perception of what someone is trying to say, while ignoring the bigger picture. Which isn't unlike what I would expect from someone on either end of the political spectrum and calls into question exactly why that specific sentence seemed to trigger you so much.

 

[AmonTobin]

I don't exist on any political spectrum, not even a little bit.

At the same time, there is a certain type of thinking, biases and limitations which is inherent with that political leaning.

I merely acknowledged that this is the cult like narrative and energy he is seems to be mindlessly pushing.

Picking either side will lead to these sorts of biases. Right, left, it doesn't matter. Only way anyone can arrive at the truth and any semblance of objectivity is by being in the middle.

This sort of cherry picking is only ever going to lead to a biased perception of what someone is trying to say, while ignoring the bigger picture.

Fact-checking isn't cherry picking. And one could make a career out of fact checking Rogan.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

I think when you do psychedelics, you realize how unimportant politics and these petty social squabbles actually are.

As such, Rogan has never been political or adopted a stance either way.

You also tend to realize that political parties and both sides of every discussion are often controlled by the same hands. Much like how both sides of a war are have been funded throughout history by the same party who is looking to create wealth, power and control in a risk like chess move.

Those who mindlessly pick a side tend to be the lowest common denominator of public consciousness.


That being said, when you have such a platform, you're more or less forced to adopt certain narratives or ideologies, at least on the surface. You can tell when Rogan is just sort of being a good company man, so to speak. His shilling is quite transparent, and is unlikely a reflection of how he actually thinks behind the scenes.

Rogan's intelligence is seen more when he removes those masks, of which there are many.

Most people will judge based on those masks, but don't see or understand the larger picture behind them or are even aware of their existence.

The same is true for his commentary. He's gotten criticism for the quality of his casting going down, but people don't seem to understand that his role has been different since goldy got canned.

Rogan isn’t shilling or doing a bit when he’s in podcast mode. That’s the real Joe. And he was apolotical at one time, but those days are gone. I don’t think he trips much these days.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

DC is a great analyst when he needs to be.

But I think the entire commentary is dedicated towards casuals.

They aren't going out of their way to provide the most elite analysis possible for people like us.

The vast majority of fans responsible for the viewership are untrained casuals. They're both trying to entertain and articulate things in a very dumbed down way.

DC has the knowledge and experience to deliver great analysis. He used to do “Detail” and it was awesome. But his commentary has gotten lazy. He clearly doesn’t prep, and at least one other commentator has called him out on it.

 

[AstralPanda]

The whole idea of mindlessly hating Rogan comes from someone without the insight to understand why people don't like Rogan; it's self-explanatory.

Like, "Why would you hate Rogan?" Well, if you have to ask......

ROFL at these posts making Rogan out to be this guru on human intelligence and depth. This guy spends endless time spouting on UFOs and bizarre shit. He is no different than your typical yoyo on Facebook posting weird conspiracies and getting idiots to buy into them.

I think there are levels to analysis.

Many, like yourself, form absolute opinions based upon incredibly small amounts of information.

It's a result of this generation where things are clipped, stripped of greater context and depth. Rogan has 100,000 hours of him speaking on camera, but people decide to fixate on miniscule tidbits and form these absolute opinions.

People only expose themselves with these half hearted opinions, which is all the more ironic than humans so shallow and lacking any semblance of depth to their process are critiquing another man's intelligence.

Anyone can do this to a public figure. I can go out of my way to cherry pick and make someone look into a villain, dumb, or whatever narrative I'd like construct for them that day.

However, you'll never arrive at any sort of truth when you judge things and people with such a biased, limited and shallow lens.

even the average human is incredibly complex and multi faceted, to analyze anyone requires a very in depth process. There's a reason why psychologists, psychotherapists and other experts are so hesitant to speak with conviction, even after countless sessions.

You cannot analyze anyone in such a mindless, half hearted manner and expect to understand anyone.

When I analyze Rogan, I'm looking at like 500 different things. You're cherry picking 1 or 2 in a biased way.

So, there's simply a difference in the level of thinking here.

 

[AstralPanda]

Fact-checking isn't cherry picking. And one could make a career out of fact checking Rogan.

Rogan is a comedian. He doesn't speak in absolutes and much of what he says is tongue in cheek.

He also has 100,000 hours of podcast time. Nobody is going to be perfect on every little thing they say.

Going out of your way to fast check someone with this context in mind just comes off like looking for a reason to hate, disagree with or attack someone's character.

And yes, it is quite literally cherry picking in the fullest sense of the meaning.

 

[joy2day]

I think there are levels to analysis.

Many, like yourself, form absolute opinions based upon incredibly small amounts of information.

Stopped reading right here. You are basing your opinion of how I form opinions with an incredibly small amount of information, your post fails too badly from the start to even read; claiming others are doing something that you are currently doing. Logical fail. Try again.

 

[seanb1979]

Imagine being angry that people have conversations about things you don't like.

 

[AstralPanda]

Rogan isn’t shilling or doing a bit when he’s in podcast mode. That’s the real Joe. And he was apolotical at one time, but those days are gone. I don’t think he trips much these days.

He does. But it's towards specific topics of discussion. Not gonna say exactly what they are, but there's certain narratives he's definitely asked to align with.

Rogan was more the real Joe early on in the podcast. He has far more masks now when discussing certain topics.

He's more the real Joe when with guests like Duncan though, but still, they're both cautious to not go over certain lines.

Almost anyone in the public eye is shilling to a degree, even if they're not actively pushing a narrative.