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When will nutrition courses actually teach proper nutrition?

I meant appropriate. Appropriate for the guy saying that some phDs have no common sense but "book smarts," or whatever it was, to ask which reality was being discussed.

...but...there is only one reality to be discussed...(?)
 
The only rand books I've read our Capitalism, The Anti-Industrial Revolution, and Philosphy (non-fiction). I found them to be well written. I started to read Atlas Shrugged (fiction) and I agree it is poorly written. I'll probably try reading it through soon though.

Remember, English was not her first language and entertainment was never her first priority...cut her some slack in these areas and you'll find her a lot less frustrating :)

If there's one thing you can fault her for, it is being far too long winded. I am glad I read Atlas Shrugged, it is one of my favorite books, but it could have been condensed into a volume half the size (making it a mere 500 pages or so :icon_conf)

Didn't mean to "red" your text, BTW. EDIT: Oh, wait, you did that, my bad. :)
 
Remember, English was not her first language and entertainment was never her first priority...cut her some slack in these areas and you'll find her a lot less frustrating :)

If there's one thing you can fault her for, it is being far too long winded. I am glad I read Atlas Shrugged, it is one of my favorite books, but it could have been condensed into a volume half the size (making it a mere 500 pages or so :icon_conf)

Didn't mean to "red" your text, BTW. EDIT: Oh, wait, you did that, my bad. :)

Yup. I couldn't the incredible amount of adjectives and excess language, as well the complete lack of continuity and "flow." Her non-fiction I found awesome.
 
There's only one reality.

Exactly! So what are you saying lol?

Yup. I couldn't the incredible amount of adjectives and excess language, as well the complete lack of continuity and "flow." Her non-fiction I found awesome.

Yeah, it makes her books a lot less accessible, it's a shame because they are so important, from a philosophical standpoint.

It's annoying because her books have some great subtleties, but then she'll spend 3x the page space basically saying, "Did you catch that? Huh? Did you see what happened there?"
 
Exactly! So what are you saying lol?

I wasn't really saying anything other than I thought it was fitting that the person saying that a person can't be an idiot if they can memorize enough facts, theories, etc., goes on to ask which reality we are dealing with.
 
I've read Rand's Atlas Shrugged. I can only add that I also can't see how her lack of talent in writing has any bearing on her philosophy. While her protagonists were heroes of industriousness and endowed with superhuman talent, I don't think she meant to say that everyone should (or even could) live up to that standard. Therefore, it's not ironic at all that she was a mediocre novelist. She's just using fiction as a medium for conveying her ideas. In that sense, she was pretty damn successful.
 
Also, everyone knows that there are least 4 realities, maybe 5 if you round up.
 
So...to bring this discussion back to nutrition...um...she does totally rip on soy (and the accompanying "soy culture") in Atlas Shrugged...for serious.
 
Tomorrow I'll have a class about 'healthy lifestyle'. All the things about excercise are decent. But the food advice just makes me sigh. This features a food piramid where grains are the best thing you can possibly consume and everything remotely related to fats is satan. Regarding to fats: "less is best" But I doubt trying to question the almighty WHO will get me good grade.
 
They probably wont.
Im starting to learn, that not one set of nutrition advice is the only right way.

For example, people on this forum know so much good info, but alot of it is different to what the guys on bodybuilding.com say, and they are different to what another site say. And Ive followed a few diets, Ive seen they work, but for different reasons.

Right now, and the diet that suits me most and the one I enjoy most is more like a caveman diet. Basically, just proteins and fats and natural carbs, from what you get from fruits, raw veg. Lots of meat, milk, water, veg, fruit, fats. I have 2 cheat days, and Im happy with it. Got me a week to get use to it but I like eating what I want really.
 
^^^^ caveman did not have milk, cause cows then have not been "domestic". They also did not have cheese or butter I think.
 
^^^^ caveman did not have milk,

Sure they had milk. Hell, I bet little cave-kids were on the boob until they were 4, or even more. Because humans have, for the most part and varying from ethnicity to ethnicity, kept the lactase enzyme (score one for genetic adaptation), dairy products, especially raw and organic, are far from unhealthy.
 
Sure they had milk. Hell, I bet little cave-kids were on the boob until they were 4, or even more. Because humans have, for the most part and varying from ethnicity to ethnicity, kept the lactase enzyme (score one for genetic adaptation), dairy products, especially raw and organic, are far from unhealthy.

Agreed on all points.

And, as I've posted before, fermented dairy products (like yogurt) have even less lactase (useful info when you consider dairy from a "how can it be useful to me?" standpoint, rather than just a "can I tolerate this?" standpoint).
 
Sure they had milk. Hell, I bet little cave-kids were on the boob until they were 4, or even more. Because humans have, for the most part and varying from ethnicity to ethnicity, kept the lactase enzyme (score one for genetic adaptation), dairy products, especially raw and organic, are far from unhealthy.

Actually that's right, but maybe that's from lactose in the mothers breast milk and not cow milk. Still probably doesn't make a difference. Just can't figure out if grains and legumes are unhealthy, would be nice if you'd shed some light on that for me, and also what about the potatoes.
 
humans have, for the most part and varying from ethnicity to ethnicity, kept the lactase enzyme

I think most humans are lactose intolerant, and the tolerance mutation only spread widely in the last 10,000 years. Whether or not people of that age count as cave men is up to the reader
 
Actually that's right, but maybe that's from lactose in the mothers breast milk and not cow milk. Still probably doesn't make a difference. Just can't figure out if grains and legumes are unhealthy, would be nice if you'd shed some light on that for me, and also what about the potatoes.

Grains are generally unhealthy because they are carbohydrate dense (which opens up an enormous can of worms, if not managed carefully) and grains contain anti-nutrients, like lectins and gluten.

Legumes typically aren't as carbohydrate-dense, but they still contain undesirables like lectins and phytic acids.
 
Lactose intolerance might also have something to do with pasteurization, as well as other nutritional changes over years that have proven enzyme depriving.
 
I think most humans are lactose intolerant, and the tolerance mutation only spread widely in the last 10,000 years. Whether or not people of that age count as cave men is up to the reader

I think that's a gross generalization. For example, Northern/Western Europeans (my ancestry) have a very low incidence of lactose intolerance.

Certain indigenous cultures' diets, such as that of the Masai in Africa, also include milk. Even though the overall lactose tolerance of the African continent is low, I'm sure it is quite high amongst the Masai.

lactose+tolerance.JPG (image)

(BTW, I know there are newer sources than that, but I can't find them right now and at any rate, that image is more or less concurrent with what I have seen more recently)
 
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