When Usyk challenged Wladimir. This is class and respect.

[sandokan83]

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

It wasn't a serious challenge. Wlad & Vitali promote him (K2 Promotions). This was back in 2013 so Usyk had just turned pro that year and won the Olympics the previous year. He was only a cruiserweight prospect back then. He has sparred Wlad before though and reportedly got the better of him. Not that it would've necessarily gone that way in an actual fight. Sparring is sparring.

 

[Seano]

Wladmir would have been a tough go for Usyk, Vitali too.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

We should be glad it never happened. It would've been a friendly game of tag. Not a fight.

 

[2Wasted2Day]

Wladmir would have been a tough go for Usyk, Vitali too.

Rumour was Usyk had his way with Wlad when they sparred. For the Wlad vs Fury fight.
They allegedly sent him home.
Think Johhny Nelson said this.

But I guess Sparring is Sparring etc etc

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Rumour was Usyk had his way with Wlad when they sparred. For the Wlad vs Fury fight.
They allegedly sent him home.
Think Johhny Nelson said this.

But I guess Sparring is Sparring etc etc

Yeah. Stylistically Usyk is all wrong for Wlad. Vitali would've been the much tougher test out of the two brothers.

 

[SandisLL]

Yeah. Stylistically Usyk is all wrong for Wlad. Vitali would've been the much tougher test out of the two brothers.

Usyk had sparred with Wlad and Vitaly a lot. The same Briedis too.
Klits brothers had supported Usyk when he was top level am and beginner pro. Financially, sparring partners booking and camps etc...

 

[SandisLL]

Briedis btw yesterday announced that he will retire from pro boxing.
So CW rankings will change if he had signed formulars. It was hardest fight for Usyk he ever had....according to Usyk. While then ofc he had prime shape version in the ring and both now are old.

 

[Seano]

Yeah. Stylistically Usyk is all wrong for Wlad. Vitali would've been the much tougher test out of the two brothers.

Can't say I ever saw Wlad get worked by a guy like Usyk, not sure why people think that. Wlads jab and sledge hammer right hand were no joke.

I tend to think people underrate Wladmir a bit.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Can't say I ever saw Wlad get worked by a guy like Usyk, not sure why people think that. Wlads jab and sledge hammer right hand were no joke.

I tend to think people underrate Wladmir a bit.

The Steward version of Wlad was most effective but if you managed to take his jab away the rest of his game went with it. That's because he was a textbook boxer/puncher that needed to touch you with his jab first to set up his right hand. Usyk would take his jab away. It'd be even easier because he's a southpaw. So was Corrie Sanders who you'll notice Wlad never rematched. He had Vitali do his dirty work. Wlad would also try and lean on him but Usyk would likely just shut it down like he did when Fury tried. Wlad does have a big right hand, a strong left hook too, but Usyk has a granite chin while Wlad's chin was always a liability.

 

[treelo]

the narrative about Klitschko having a shaky chin is nonsense

out of his 2 KO losses, they were to guys who hit incredibly hard in Joshua and Sanders, and he wasnt one punched, he got up several times against the pair of them

his collapse against Brewster was just pure exhaustion, which i put down to him fighting a new style for the first time under Steward

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

the narrative about Klitschko having a shaky chin is nonsense

out of his 2 KO losses, they were to guys who hit incredibly hard in Joshua and Sanders, and he wasnt one punched, he got up several times against the pair of them

his collapse against Brewster was just pure exhaustion, which i put down to him fighting a new style for the first time under Steward

Nonsense? He's been stopped multiple times and fought gun shy because he didn't trust his own chin.

 

[treelo]

Nonsense? He's been stopped multiple times and fought gun shy because he didn't trust his own chin.

he retired with an injured shoulder against Byrd
he was exhausted against Brewster, he got knocked down, but he was absolutely exhausted, he was on his feet when the fight was stopped

he got stopped by Sanders and Joshua after getting up multiple times, one of those losses was the very last fight of his career at an advanced age, and 64 KOs from 69 wins doesnt really scream gunshy to me

im not sure you have followed his career TBH

he has also fought some other absolute murderous punches and taken shots and not been stopped

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

he retired with an injured shoulder against Byrd
he was exhausted against Brewster, he got knocked down, but he was absolutely exhausted, he was on his feet when the fight was stopped

he got stopped by Sanders and Joshua after getting up multiple times, one of those losses was the very last fight of his career at an advanced age, and 64 KOs from 69 wins doesnt really scream gunshy to me

im not sure you have followed his career TBH

he has also fought some other absolute murderous punches and taken shots and not been stopped

Excuses. Steward had him using that jab & grab style to protect his chin. Corrie Sanders hit hard but not incredibly hard. Fury said it himself, Wlad is chinny. Wlad wouldn't even engage him and this was back when Fury wasn't even sitting down on his shots.

Edit. Vitali retired on the stool against Byrd. Wlad beat Byrd both times they fought. But you say I didn't follow his career? LOL

 

[treelo]

Excuses. Steward had him using that jab & grab style to protect his chin. Corrie Sanders hit hard but not incredibly hard. Fury said it himself, Wlad is chinny. Wlad wouldn't even engage him and this was back when Fury wasn't even sitting down on his shots.

Edit. Vitali retired on the stool against Byrd. Wlad beat Byrd both times they fought. But you say I didn't follow his career? LOL

correct, it was Ross Purity, another fight in which he went down and got up multiple times

who is making excuses, im not even a fan, but to say a fighter who has been beaten 5 times in 69 fights is chinny, is fucking absurd, especially when he was never absolutely knocked out and has fought some very very big punchers

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

correct, it was Ross Purity, another fight in which he went down and got up multiple times

who is making excuses, im not even a fan, but to say a fighter who has been beaten 5 times in 69 fights is chinny, is fucking absurd, especially when he was never absolutely knocked out and has fought some very very big punchers

You do realize that Wlad has a reputation for not having the best chin. Right? You don't have to get knocked out to have a shaky chin. Fury is in the same boat. His chin is a liability too only his otherworldly recovery allows him to get back up whenever he gets dropped.

 

[treelo]

You do realize that Wlad has a reputation for not having the best chin. Right? You don't have to get knocked out to have a shaky chin. Fury is in the same boat. His chin is a liability too only his otherworldly recovery allows him to get back up whenever he gets dropped.

thats the narrative from some people, but some people also say Lennox Lewis had a shaky chin

seen the pair of those fighters take massive shots against some heavy heavy punchers and not budge

cant say the same about Fury though

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

thats the narrative from some people, but some people also say Lennox Lewis had a shaky chin

seen the pair of those fighters take massive shots against some heavy heavy punchers and not budge

cant say the same about Fury though

That's not just some narrative it's the general consensus. Nobody would rate Wlad's chin highly. He avoided taking risks because he didn't trust his chin. Some fighters are like that. To Lewis' credit he got knocked out twice but never fought really cautious like Wlad.

 

[sandokan83]