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When Rogan asked Francis about him going to boxing

The better fight is Francis vs Wilder

Fury makes this too one sided hes way too good
 
PicoPulse said:
The better fight is Francis vs Wilder

Fury makes this too one sided hes way too good
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I don't see how Wilder/Ngannou is any less one-sided than Fury/Ngannou. Ngannou should try to get the Jake Paul fight
 
That's the question I was hoping he would ask after the fight. Unfortunately he gave a somewhat vague answer and didn't say much so things are still unclear.
 
capnlarge said:
I don't see how Wilder/Ngannou is any less one-sided than Fury/Ngannou. Ngannou should try to get the Jake Paul fight
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Because Tyson is much much




much much better then Wing em Wilder


edit: Also Jake sleeps him and Fury lets be real here
 
Zanmato said:
Does he though? Why? He has headlined 3 PPV with a 2-1 record in those fights and the only buy rate yet shown is 350,000 which is pretty weak. On a personal level I hope these guys make as much as they can but he has a low number of defences and minima evidence of selling big fights, how does that translate into big pay days
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This is kind of a BS argument that the UFC likes to use to justify not paying fighters more.
The UFC is supposed to be in charge of promotion, but they largely promote the brand of the UFC, not the individual fighters. And then they'll blame the fighter for not promoting themselves, while the UFC also controls how the fighters are sponsored at events, and what they can do with other organizations and sports. It's BS.

We'd be able to see a much more accurate idea of a fighter's value if they had proper promotion. Instead, we will have the president of the company and the promoter publicly badmouthing his own fighters and champions. Being so petty that he doesn't even show up to put the belt around the champ's waist, or go to the post fight press conference.
How can we talk about what a fighter is truly worth when the promoter downplays their worth and is playing favorites? Making up bullshit interim titles and such.

How much money does Floyd Mayweather get relative to how exciting his fights are, and his weight class?
Fact of the matter is is that the UFC wants to keep the fighters under their thumb, so they put the brand first--that way, a single fighter can never take over the whole sport. If they lose a popular fighter, the show can still go on because the people remember the name "UFC" before anything else.
 
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PicoPulse said:
Because Tyson is much much




much much better then Wing em Wilder


edit: Also Jake sleeps him and Fury lets be real here
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The gap between Wilder and Fury is insignificant for a 0-0 boxer. Like if you are pleb, it doesn't really matter whether you pick a fight with Batman or Superman
 
Rogan had previously tried to clear it with the org, but it flew over his head.


5'3"
 
Why are people going on an on about Francis "challenging" Fury in boxing.

Francis isn't challenging jack squat.

This is about a MASSIVE payday for both Fury and Francis. There's a LOT of money to be made in a spectacle and they should be able to earn it.

I ain't hatin'...
 
SmilinDesperado said:
This is kind of a BS argument that the UFC likes to use to justify not paying fighters more.
The UFC is supposed to be in charge of promotion, but they largely promote the brand of the UFC, not the individual fighters. And then they'll blame the fighter for not promoting themselves, while the UFC also controls how the fighters are sponsored at events, and what they can do with other organizations and sports. It's BS.

We'd be able to see a much more accurate idea of a fighter's value if they had proper promotion. Instead, we will have the president of the company and the promoter publicly badmouthing his own fighters and champions. Being so petty that he doesn't even show up to put the belt around the champ's waist, or go to the post fight press conference.
How can we talk about what a fighter is truly worth when the promoter downplays their worth and is playing favorites? Making up bullshit interim titles and such.

How much money does Floyd Mayweather get relative to how exciting his fights are, and his weight class?
Fact of the matter is is that the UFC wants to keep the fighters under their thumb, so they put the brand first--that way, a single fighter can never take over the whole sport. If they lose a popular fighter, the show can still go on because the people remember the name "UFC" before anything else.
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The problem with this is that you have complained that a fighter should have to promote his own fight and used the biggest personality and biggest self promoter in the game as a comparison. If you generate more income for the company without them having yo spend more money, you get paid more. If you disappear into the ether between a few 60 second fights a year then you don't. Agree with it, disagree with it, everyone knows that is how it works, that's why Jake Paul earns more than Derrick Chisora. Ngannou is already earning more than Cormier did (outside of the Jones fights) by a large amount, but his fights aren't pulling the same numbers
 
INoHespectChael said:
Maybe because Fury called Francis out himself saying he wants to box him with UFC gloves?
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Fury also says all kinds of shit for publicity. has he ever confirmed he actually gave away his entire purse to the homeless charity he said he was gonna do after the 1st Wilder fight? because there seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding that claim and it's been like 4 years.
 
Strychnine said:
Why are people going on an on about Francis "challenging" Fury in boxing.

Francis isn't challenging jack squat.

This is about a MASSIVE payday for both Fury and Francis. There's a LOT of money to be made in a spectacle and they should be able to earn it.

I ain't hatin'...
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is it really a massive payday for Fury or just ez money? because i don't see Francis as a superstar in MMA and obviously not in boxing
 
stav said:
Ngannou is a great MMA fighter but he does not have the technical skills to challenge Fury in a boxing match.

This was painfully obvious against Gane. He had to adjust his fight style a broad range of MMA techniques (wrestling) to win this fight. That's not a dig at him...he is an MMA fighter and that is what he is supposed to do....but without a broad range of techniques Fury kills him.
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I think even Francis would admit this.

And challenging Fury is less about Francis thinking he can actually beat Fury in boxing, and more about Fighter Pay.
 
PicoPulse said:
Because Tyson is much much




much much better then Wing em Wilder


edit: Also Jake sleeps him and Fury lets be real here
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wilder put fury to sleep once
he would do permanent damage to francis
 
capnlarge said:
The gap between Wilder and Fury is insignificant for a 0-0 boxer. Like if you are pleb, it doesn't really matter whether you pick a fight with Batman or Superman
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nope Batman wins
 
Prex32 said:
wilder put fury to sleep once
he would do permanent damage to francis
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that never happened he got up and continued that was his only offense in that fight and the draw was criminal
 
I think Naganu stands a decent chance against Fury if they wear MMA gloves. It'll be hard for Fury to block. Plus Naganu swings like a maniac
 
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