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When I realized how clueless most psychologists were...

MC Paul Barman

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Back in February of 2013 I had my first spell of intense anxiety; which manifested primarily in the form of insomnia and then a profound fear of being unable to sleep at all (which further perpetuated the insomnia).

There were other symptoms too (heart racing, mind racing, constant dizziness, no appetite.... and others), but the sleep issue scared me the most. I could go a week with getting little more than 3 1/2 hours for the entire week.

So I'm working at Chase Bank and slowly becoming convinced that I'm going to have to quit my job.
I had a call with the employee assistance line and from that call they rocketed me all the way up to the main guy in that department. A well established psychologist who studied at top universities and graduated with honors.

I get my first call scheduled with him and I'm getting excited thinking he'll be able to crack this or at least shed some light on the issue.

My first call and I explain the whole situation. All he advised for me to do on that first call was to try something called 4 Square Breathing.
Breathe in for 4 seconds, hold your breath for 4 seconds, exhale for 4 seconds, hold for 4 seconds.... repeat.

That was about it for the first call. We scheduled another call for 3 days later and I'm thinking he's going to go over the notes he wrote down, then on the next call he'll ask some more questions, and then help me to start chipping away at this.

3 days later and I still feel like shit (hopeless, full of despair, exhausted, unable to sleep).... he calls me at the scheduled time for the second call and he sounds all chipper and excited to hear how I was doing.
"So! Are you doing any better??!"

"Not much if any."

Doctor: "Haven't you been doing the 4 Square Breathing?"

Me: "Well sure, but it hasn't cleared up the issue. Wait... is that it?! Just a breathing exercise to clear up all of this??!"

Doctor: "No, no, no.... we have other things we can try also."

Me: (relieved but wary) "Great... what else can I do?"

Doctor: "Let's increase it to a 5 Square Breathing exercise."

(I actually thought this fucker was making fun of me at this point. Usually I'm much more reserved and not one to lash out at an honest attempt at helping.)

Me: "One extra second of breathing??!! That's your advice?! Haven't you read over the notes from our first meeting??"

Doctor: "Notes?"


Me: "I gotta go"


That was the head honcho of the employee assistance department for mental health issues.

From there I started seeing a litany of psychologists and psychiatrists with little improvement on Doctor Breathie's Breath Treatment.
 
Almost all doctors play the guessing/deducting game... medical science has a long way to go imo
 
Almost all doctors play the guessing/deducting game... medical science has a long way to go imo
With behavioral stuff yeah, at this point TS should just start benzos if it’s been this long
 
Back in February of 2013 I had my first spell of intense anxiety; which manifested primarily in the form of insomnia and then a profound fear of being unable to sleep at all (which further perpetuated the insomnia).

There were other symptoms too (heart racing, mind racing, constant dizziness, no appetite.... and others), but the sleep issue scared me the most. I could go a week with getting little more than 3 1/2 hours for the entire week.

So I'm working at Chase Bank and slowly becoming convinced that I'm going to have to quit my job.
I had a call with the employee assistance line and from that call they rocketed me all the way up to the main guy in that department. A well established psychologist who studied at top universities and graduated with honors.

I get my first call scheduled with him and I'm getting excited thinking he'll be able to crack this or at least shed some light on the issue.

My first call and I explain the whole situation. All he advised for me to do on that first call was to try something called 4 Square Breathing.
Breathe in for 4 seconds, hold your breath for 4 seconds, exhale for 4 seconds, hold for 4 seconds.... repeat.

That was about it for the first call. We scheduled another call for 3 days later and I'm thinking he's going to go over the notes he wrote down, then on the next call he'll ask some more questions, and then help me to start chipping away at this.

3 days later and I still feel like shit (hopeless, full of despair, exhausted, unable to sleep).... he calls me at the scheduled time for the second call and he sounds all chipper and excited to hear how I was doing.
"So! Are you doing any better??!"

"Not much if any."

Doctor: "Haven't you been doing the 4 Square Breathing?"

Me: "Well sure, but it hasn't cleared up the issue. Wait... is that it?! Just a breathing exercise to clear up all of this??!"

Doctor: "No, no, no.... we have other things we can try also."

Me: (relieved but wary) "Great... what else can I do?"

Doctor: "Let's increase it to a 5 Square Breathing exercise."

(I actually thought this fucker was making fun of me at this point. Usually I'm much more reserved and not one to lash out at an honest attempt at helping.)

Me: "One extra second of breathing??!! That's your advice?! Haven't you read over the notes from our first meeting??"

Doctor: "Notes?"


Me: "I gotta go"


That was the head honcho of the employee assistance department for mental health issues.

From there I started seeing a litany of psychologists and psychiatrists with little improvement on Doctor Breathie's Breath Treatment.

I also suffer from crippling anxiety.

I work in mortgage sales and I’m a single father.

My life is ridiculously stressful especially towards money. Some months I can male 10-15k if my sales are good. Other months I only make 2-3k.

Last year I had a good year and made 112k.

It’s a constant grind and I’ve never been on vacation.
 
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So.... what's the conclusion of this story? You've seen a bunch of psychologist and psychiatrists....and? What now?
 
I also suffer from crippling anxiety.

I work in mortgage sales and I’m a single father.

My life is ridiculously stressful especially towards money. Some months I can male 10-15k if my sales are good. Other months I on,y make 2-3k.

Last year I had a good year and made 112k.

It’s a constant grind and I’ve never been on vacation.

I feel bad you for, and at the same time admire your strength. Sales is tough. I could never do it. Id be homeless
 
I feel bad you for, and at the same time admire your strength. Sales is tough. I could never do it. Id be homeless

Yea I’d love to quit but where else could a guy like me make the same kind of money?

Here In Canada average lawyers make like 80-90k and only the successful ones make well over six figures.

It’s hard to be successful so I’m just going to keep grinding.
 
I agree, I wanted to get into psychology to "help people". However, between my internship and trying to apply what I learned after almost 4 years in my bachelors program it seemed like a sham and it wasn't for me.
 
Play the book of psalms at night.

Also go to a church that has prayer meetings. I had similar issue a few years ago I thought it was a blood sugar issue so I went in and they did a whole bunch of tests/ ekg, blood- all negative.

So they were going to refer me to a specialist which I knew meant some mental health doctor. I left discouraged and heard this pastor on the radio that was near by.

Decided to hit that up, they had a prayer meeting I sat in on that and while I'm in there I feel all that anxiety just leave. It was crazy, after that I knew it was a spiritual issue. It's like the prayer meeting scared whatever was bugging me off.

I was at work about a week later and I felt it come on me again and realizing it was spiritual just prayed and cast it out in Jesus name (never done that before, thought it was only from stuff from movies) and it worked.

Praise be to God I haven't had anxiety issues/sleep paralysis in years.
 
You have to find the right DR for you. I went through like 4 of them sons of bitches before i met the right one. The 4 square breathing exercises might be bullshit but a lot of those mental exercises are legit so try the ones they tell you to try.

The Dr can't fix your mind, only you can, but you need the right one to point you down the right path.

Also don't take meds unless it gets unbearable. Those Docs just pass out random narcotics until the patient says "well that one made me feel good." Meanwhile the 10 scrips you tried before that cooked your brain and gave you ED.
 
i diagnose you with the inability to POST SOME FUCKIN CLIFFS
 
Also yes psycologists are kind of bullshit. Anyone that can listen to other peoples problems all day without calling them a pussies can do that job.
 
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