When Can You Say, "I'm a Boxer."

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Is it as soon as you sign up and start training?

Is it after 3 months of consistent training? 6 months? A year?

Is it when you start sparring?

Is it when you do your first in Gym Smoker?

Is it when you start competing as an amateur?
 
This guy could probably get away with calling himself a boxer...

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When you've had a fight I'd say.
 
I would never call myself a boxer, it's too pretentious. If you're around other martial artists, you can mention that you train, but otherwise I wouldn't bring it up at all.
 
Is it as soon as you sign up and start training?

Is it after 3 months of consistent training? 6 months? A year?

Is it when you start sparring?

Is it when you do your first in Gym Smoker?

Is it when you start competing as an amateur?
When it's your profession. You wouldn't call yourself a basketball player just because you play basketball every weekend with your friends right? You are nothing other than what your job is. You can say you box as a hobby or play basketball as a hobby.

Otherwise, I'm a skater, basketball player, boxer, wrestler, bartender, blogger (sherdog), baseball player, golf ball player, swimmer, mountain climber, streamer, gamer, or even a techie or web developer just because I made a few websites when I was a kid.
 
I think the question comes from this. Every so often someone in your life asks, what are you into. Then I might say, "I like to box."

"Ohhh, how many fights have you had?"

"Umm none. And I don't really intend to."

Now I do spar and have competed in smokers. But can I say that I box? Or am a boxer?
I feel like the general public thinks, no. You can't say you box unless you compete.
 
There's a difference between saying that you train in boxing or that you box recreationally and saying you're a boxer.

I've trained MMA for years and i'd never call myself an MMA fighter because I'm not. I've wrestled for most of my life and I will call myself a wrestler (and clarify that it's not the WWE kind if necessary) because I still regularly train but I also competed at the D-I level.

However, there's no stolen valor issues with saying you're a boxer when you really just train it for a few hours a week.
 
I think you at least have to have fought in the ring to call yourself a boxer otherwise you are just playing at being a boxer.
 
if you collect plastic bags - you are beggar
if you collect bottles - you are bootlegger
if you collect boxes - you are a boxer, as simple as that
 
When you can properly box, you call yourself a boxer.

If you're talented, it takes you a lot less. When you aren't, vice versa.
 
I thought about that some time ago, and came to the conclussion that you have to constantly compete be a boxer.
But then again I wondered: What if you keep losing fight after fight after fight? lol ...I guess then you're a shitty boxer.

I even asked some team mates and some of them said that you have to be a pro first.
I didn't agree with that, because it suggests that there is difference between ALL amateurs and pro's in regards to their level of skill ...I know some guys who have a lincense to fight professionally even though they're not up to it. They end up as journeymen.

I also know this guy, he's a cuban and a long-time amateur with no interest to turn pro. Few years ago he beat up 4 guys and got charged for assault. Is he not a "boxer" ?

Anyway, when you stop competing, you're no boxer anymore. You WERE a boxer at some point, lower or higher level, more or less successful.

The idea of calling someone a boxer who had one single amateur fight a long time ago, seems preposterous.
 
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When you can properly box, you call yourself a boxer.

If you're talented, it takes you a lot less. When you aren't, vice versa.

I don't know ...what is properly? You can look good boxing an absolute beginner, while you can look shitty boxing someone more experienced.
 
I don't know ...what is properly? You can look good boxing an absolute beginner, while you can look shitty boxing someone more experienced.

When you look amazing boxing an absolute beginner, and when you look good boxing someone more experienced.

That's my criteria.
 
When it's start being your job, not just a hobby. If you're doing boxing after a day of cooking in a restaurant, you're a chef, not a boxer.
 
When you spar are you not boxing? If you are boxing, then you are something that boxes. A boxer is someone that boxes. Therefore you are a boxer.
 
I guess if you've fought and live the lifestyle.

I've had amateur fights and still don't really consider myself a fighter.
 
if you eat at McDonalds, it does not make you a Big Mac
 
Tough call. I've trained martial arts for years and would be fine calling myself a martial artist, but I also box (I have fought), I do still spar and go to the gym. Most people that know me call me a boxer even though I feel less comfortable being called that than I am being called a martial artist. Thing is, it's more tiresome to correct them, and the point of the correction is lost on so many that I stop trying to. It's easier to say yeah but I don't compete anymore. Most fighters that consistently perform would probably say this about me: "he boxes" but wouldn't call me a "boxer" like them. And you know what, I completely agree with them.

It's kind of splitting hairs in a lot of ways. If someone is really good at sketching, people would call them an artist, but would other artists look down upon that characterization because they have more qualifications and experience being an artist? I know a buddy that plays hockey recreationally and used to be a pretty legitimate player when he was younger. I would call him a hockey player, not "Oh, I know that guy, he used to be a really good hockey player, but now he just plays recreationally". It's easier to say, "he's a hockey player". He will probably spend more time splitting hairs on how accurate that characterization is than anyone would.

I guess it comes down to that line from Joyce Carol Oates, or words to this effect: boxers box (fighter's fight), they do not play boxing.

Because of that it's easier to say you are a this or a that when it comes to sports because anyone can play or do, but you can't say you play boxing or even do boxing. You box, and boxer's box so it seems a bit all encompassing by definition. And because of that, it can be hard to call oneself a boxer unless you are fighitng at that time.

tl;dr: say "I box at a gym, but I don't fight" or "I used to fight/had a fight, but just train now, nothing competitive."
 
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