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What's Your Next Purchase? V5

Hopefully I can find a place (maybe Caelas) where I could compare identical in specs (ie magnification and shit) between a Vortex and Leupold.


Yeah you need to try a bunch of stuff to find something with the eye relief you like too. I shoot a lot of 300 win mag and bigger, 338, 340wby etc so I always want generous eye relief. In that regard, Leica scopes always win out. And sometimes you can get them on sale for like 1200 bucks rather than the 2000 dollar mark.
 
Yeah you need to try a bunch of stuff to find something with the eye relief you like too. I shoot a lot of 300 win mag and bigger, 338, 340wby etc so I always want generous eye relief. In that regard, Leica scopes always win out. And sometimes you can get them on sale for like 1200 bucks rather than the 2000 dollar mark.
I just did some more research. The version of the Mark 4 that is FFP is almost 2200 bucks. The Vortex PST in 6 x 24 with FFP AND is illuminated... MSRP $1149 on their site. I wanted to splurge on a Leupold and I know their quality is damn near second to none but to get a scope that is only an ounce heavier but near $1000 less expensive and still does what I want... I think my mind has been RE-shifted to what I started at.

Oh well, I know my Vortex Spitfire is fucking great and seems to be built tough as nails and even came with etched glass, 3x zoom, hash marks for pre-set distance zeroes, all for like $600 less than a Trijicon offering.

I will freely admit, I am sure Leupold's are great but when I only take in like $750 take home I need to save SOME of my tax return for something. A:FKJEWG*TU)#@*U

Oh well, I'm sure I'll be perfectly happy with the Vortex.

Comparison links just because

Leupold:
https://www.leupold.com/tactical/sc...s/mark-4-ert-6-5-20x50mm-30mm-m1-front-focal/

Vortex:
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product...fp-riflescope-with-ebr-2c-moa-reticle/reticle
 
I just did some more research. The version of the Mark 4 that is FFP is almost 2200 bucks. The Vortex PST in 6 x 24 with FFP AND is illuminated... MSRP $1149 on their site. I wanted to splurge on a Leupold and I know their quality is damn near second to none but to get a scope that is only an ounce heavier but near $1000 less expensive and still does what I want... I think my mind has been RE-shifted to what I started at.

Oh well, I know my Vortex Spitfire is fucking great and seems to be built tough as nails and even came with etched glass, 3x zoom, hash marks for pre-set distance zeroes, all for like $600 less than a Trijicon offering.

I will freely admit, I am sure Leupold's are great but when I only take in like $750 take home I need to save SOME of my tax return for something. A:FKJEWG*TU)#@*U

Oh well, I'm sure I'll be perfectly happy with the Vortex.

Comparison links just because

Leupold:
https://www.leupold.com/tactical/sc...s/mark-4-ert-6-5-20x50mm-30mm-m1-front-focal/

Vortex:
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product...fp-riflescope-with-ebr-2c-moa-reticle/reticle


Vortex scopes are great, it's not like you're getting a bad scope. Check Amazon though, occasionally sales can be had. I got
My trijicons for 800 dollars and my Leica for 1200 by shopping for sales.
 
I just did some more research. The version of the Mark 4 that is FFP is almost 2200 bucks. The Vortex PST in 6 x 24 with FFP AND is illuminated... MSRP $1149 on their site. I wanted to splurge on a Leupold and I know their quality is damn near second to none but to get a scope that is only an ounce heavier but near $1000 less expensive and still does what I want... I think my mind has been RE-shifted to what I started at.

Oh well, I know my Vortex Spitfire is fucking great and seems to be built tough as nails and even came with etched glass, 3x zoom, hash marks for pre-set distance zeroes, all for like $600 less than a Trijicon offering.

I will freely admit, I am sure Leupold's are great but when I only take in like $750 take home I need to save SOME of my tax return for something. A:FKJEWG*TU)#@*U

Oh well, I'm sure I'll be perfectly happy with the Vortex.

Comparison links just because

Leupold:
https://www.leupold.com/tactical/sc...s/mark-4-ert-6-5-20x50mm-30mm-m1-front-focal/

Vortex:
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product...fp-riflescope-with-ebr-2c-moa-reticle/reticle


Vortex scopes are great, it's not like you're getting a bad scope. Check Amazon though, occasionally sales can be had. I got
My trijicons for 800 dollars and my Leica for 1200 by shopping for sales.
 
I havnt handled the American rim fire. Do you think there's a way to take that piece off the back of the stock and design a secure way to store some stuff??? Like...I don't know, 20 extra rounds, a small nic lighter or ferro rod and maybe some wet fire??? Seems like if you could use that empty space in the stock you could make a sweet survival type gun.
Yeah, remove the rear sling swivel, the inside of the stock is hollow and you can replace the piece entirely with a different comb or length of pull.
 
Oh well, I'm sure I'll be perfectly happy with the Vortex.

Between the 2, get the vortex.

This is a nice reticle
EBR-2C Reticle (MOA)


The other ones are ok, (the ones with less hash marks) but sooner or later if you really start using it, your going to start getting those shots where you're floating the hold. Like so:

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Look at that and imagine if the wind starts blowing and you need to compensate for more windage?

You start moving farther over, and now your hold is floating and relying on the invisible line between the vertical and horizontal.

You're having to SWAG it like a pool shot.

Whereas:

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Now you have a reference point to line up the x and the y.

Watch some of these, principal's the same, distances would just be further with your centerfire







 
Vortex scopes are great, it's not like you're getting a bad scope. Check Amazon though, occasionally sales can be had. I got
My trijicons for 800 dollars and my Leica for 1200 by shopping for sales.
Oh I know they're quality. I just also know Leupold has the rep it has for a reason. Oh well, still, spending $1200 even though it's a Vortex isn't anything to sneeze at.

Between the 2, get the vortex.

This is a nice reticle
EBR-2C Reticle (MOA)


The other ones are ok, (the ones with less hash marks) but sooner or later if you really start using it, your going to start getting those shots where you're floating the hold. Like so:

maxresdefault.jpg


Look at that and imagine if the wind starts blowing and you need to compensate for more windage?

You start moving farther over, and now your hold is floating and relying on the invisible line between the vertical and horizontal.

You're having to SWAG it like a pool shot.

Whereas:

maxresdefault.jpg


Now you have a reference point to line up the x and the y.

Watch some of these, principal's the same, distances would just be further with your centerfire








Will keep that in mind, never thought of it that way honestly. Just took a quick peruse of the Vortex manual on how to properly use that type of reticle. Sounds VERY interesting.

Of the 21 review of the PST on the Vortex website ALL of them are 5 star reviews
 
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The last vid the guy's using a Vortex. Might be the one you're looking at?

Sorry too lazy to re-read posts, but if it is that's vid's a nice through the lens demo.


[almost makes me want a one and another BBgun to go with it!]
 
Last vid is a Bobcat I think.



This guy seems to love the Viper PST. I still don't quit understand what he's saying when he talks about the zero stop though.
 
Last vid is a Bobcat I think.

This guy seems to love the Viper PST. I still don't quit understand what he's saying when he talks about the zero stop though.
Once you're done spinning the turrets, you can actually make that your new zero.

 
So I can set it to zero at like 100 yards and be good?

Sweet
Yeah, some manufacturers will put in a hard, felt stop via set screws or whatever. Some will let you reset the dial once you're zeroed for a particular range, so after you've fucked with it for whatever reason, you can come back to your original zero.

Think of it as an adjustable reference point, so you don't have to remember shit like, "To go back to my hundred yard zero, I have to spin my elevation turret to y value."
 
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Just found out my favorite LGS is a licensed VOrtex dealer so they'd be able to order me any one of the Viper PST's with what ever reticle I could want.
 
I think I'm selling my full-autos. It pains me greatly. Not much point in having them though when I have to store them thousands of miles away. Might as well take the cash and pay off my recent spending splurge. As a consolation I'm considering one of these Ares belt fed/magazine fed jobbies.


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My scope arrived today. Actually it arrived at the post office last week and I just worked 8 days straight and now I've finished my gopher gun:



It's a Ruger American Rimfire Compact in .22LR, wearing a Nikon Prostaff Rimfire Target EFR 3-9x40mm and a Harris bipod.

So one of the quirks I've discovered with my Ruger American Rimfire...

I mentioned before that I like having iron sights on a rifle, that's just one of the ingrained, curmudgeonly held beliefs I've had about shooting, even though optics technology has made many great improvements over the years and my concerns are generally unfounded. That said, I liked that the RAR has irons; one of the features I like more than my native, Canadian made Savage rimfires. What I also thought I liked was the adjust...er...stock with a replaceable LOP/comb; I can raise or lower the cheek weld or shorten or lengthen the LOP by removing the rear sling swivel stud and replacing a piece of the stock to accommodate my needs. Great in theory, but in practice, depending on the optics, maybe not as practical.

Let me explain, so for my 3-9x40 to clear the rear sight, after it's been folded down, I have to use medium height rings, I even got QDs so I can, theoretically, dump my scope if I have to and use the irons. But to get a good cheek weld to align with my taller scope, I have to use the piece with the higher comb, see where I'm going?

So hypothetically, if Murphy's Law has struck and I need to dump my scope, I can quickly remove the scope because I use QD rings, except now, because I'm using the taller comb, I can't use my rear sight at all and I can't switch to the shorter comb because who the fuck is going to carry a piece of stock with them in the field?

That said, I'm still happy with my rifle and prefer it to my old Savage.
 
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