What's the science behind your chin going from iron to glass?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by BoxingFan653, Feb 27, 2016.

  1. BoxingFan653

    BoxingFan653 Did you just grab my ass?

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2014
    Messages:
    3,145
    Likes Received:
    5,848
    I never quite understood this amazing phenomenon. Liddell, Silva etc were all legendary fighters that could take bombs and stand there.

    After Liddell got Ko'd by rampage, Silva to Weidman, and there are quite a few examples in combat sports history, its almost like these guys cant take even half the power anymore. Is it a ruptured ear drum thats not the same anymore?

    Silva would have DESTROYED Bisping in his prime, he looked like he couldnt take a punch tonight. Credit to the count but seriously its history repeating itself.
     
  2. MCMXCIX

    MCMXCIX Purple Belt

    Joined:
    May 9, 2010
    Messages:
    2,426
    Likes Received:
    1,975
    Wear and tear.
     
  3. Walker Smith Jr

    Walker Smith Jr Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2013
    Messages:
    1,589
    Likes Received:
    1,322
    In his physical prime he was getting finished by japanese lightweights in the 1st.

    In his roided "prime" he was dangerous
     
  4. BoxingFan653

    BoxingFan653 Did you just grab my ass?

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2014
    Messages:
    3,145
    Likes Received:
    5,848
    C'mon man...dont make this thread about PED's
     
  5. Emjay

    Emjay And again and again and again and ag.. zzzzzzzz

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2009
    Messages:
    31,082
    Likes Received:
    12,217
    There is no such thing as an iron or glass chin
     
  6. ViddyWellLilBro

    ViddyWellLilBro Murder

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    769
    Likes Received:
    331
    Location:
    Murderville
    It gets broken.
     
  7. KONE

    KONE Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2015
    Messages:
    20,483
    Likes Received:
    108,152
    Location:
    Platinum Nation
    You become more susceptible to concussions the more you have them

    Also being older and getting hit when in their prime they might've avoided the strike if they quicker has a bit to do with it as well I'd imagine.
     
  8. Pointy Elbows

    Pointy Elbows Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2013
    Messages:
    688
    Likes Received:
    1,273
    A big ass punch/kick
     
  9. Hans Gercmiov

    Hans Gercmiov Steel Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2010
    Messages:
    33,191
    Likes Received:
    47,000
    Location:
    Texas
    Getting knocked out a bunch.
     
  10. JonKunDo

    JonKunDo Postin 25/8

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2009
    Messages:
    15,663
    Likes Received:
    3,692
    I heard somebody say that once your brain has shut off once it trains itself that it's an effective protection and is therefore more likely to do it again.
     
    BoxingFan653 likes this.
  11. theleerygoose

    theleerygoose Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Messages:
    895
    Likes Received:
    436
    You won't find a lot of rock solid science on this surprisingly. What we do know is that a knockout is caused by an acceleration of the head, where the brain jolts into the skull. There is connective tissue that holds the brain in place which prevents movement.

    The rest is conjuncture, but I have several theories on why a late stage knockout makes a fighter more susceptible to future knockouts. The first is that the initial knockout damages or weakens the connective tissue that holds the brain in place. Think of it like a rubber band. You can stretch the rubber band many times as long as you do so in it's working range, but if you stretch it beyond it's working range the resistance of the rubber band becomes compromised. Now imagine those rubber bands are the connective tissue in the brain.

    The second thing is old age. All of the fighters you mentioned were in their late 30's and towards the end of their career. As you get older your neck muscles begin to weaken which many believe plays a role in your resistance to knockouts. It is also scientific fact that your brain begins to shrink in your 30's and if we accept the premise that a knockout is caused by an acceleration of the head causing the brain to impact the cranium, is it not plausible that a slightly smaller brain (we're talking microns here) would have further to travel and thus have more time to pick up velocity? You might think those extra microns would be negligible, but remember it doesn't have far to travel to begin with so they could be a significant percentage.
     
    BoxingFan653 likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.