What's some good numbers for a middleweight (185lbs)

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Hey there,

I would just like to know what are some good numbers for the bench press, deadlift, squat etc for a 185lb fighter. Thanks guys :) Just wanted to set some goals
 
The general rule of thumb is that if you can bench 1.5x your bw, squat 2x your bw, and deadlift 2.5x your bw then you're pretty strong.
 
Good luck, I'm guessing you will get a lot of useless answers and hate in this thread.

Here's a site that has some performance standards by weight, and who knows or cares how accurate they are? It's inherently a subjective question:
Weightlifting Performance Standards

If you are an MMA fighter and you don't have a ridiculous amount of natural talent allowing you to school much stronger opponents, then you probably want to be as close to the "elite" end of things as you can get, while still spending most of your training time focusing on fighting technique because it's still more important than strength.

I'd guess that most pro fighters who take strength training somewhat seriously fall close to the "Advanced" numbers though. I don't think many of them can touch the "Elite" numbers, which are not even necessarily all that high for a professional powerlifter.
 
In highschool, so at about 16 years old... my friend, weighing 135 pounds, benched 315 on a 1 rep max. No jacket. He lost a lot of matches. bringing me to my next point...

the only numbers that matter are the ones in front of the dash and after it.
For example:
"10 - 0"
Who cares what you can bench. Bench as much as you can. Win fights.
 
I'm going to compete at 181 in two months. A 1200 total would be very pleasing, and reasonably competitive, to me. I'd still be happy with something in the 1100 range. I'm old though. But a fighter, with a major focus on other than powerlifting, should be fine with less - 900 to 1000 total would be reasonable. Just my opinion, hardly a rule of thumb or anything.
 
the answer is 4. no more , no less. if you can move 4 you are strong enough to be a middleweight
 
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Tosa said:
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It's pi day.
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If you were a 181-lb. powerlifter, a 1300 total would be very good. A 1400 total would put you in elite company, but you'd need at least a 1500 total to be world-class.

However, you're not a powerlifter, so you can't be expected to be as strong as one. That's not your goal.

To answer this goal, I'd have to know what other middleweights are lifting, and I don't know that. But the standard for strength in sports that don't focus on strength are likely always going to be lower than the standard for strength in a strength sport like powerlifting.
 
Keosawa said:
If you were a 181-lb. powerlifter, a 1300 total would be very good. A 1400 total would put you in elite company, but you'd need at least a 1500 total to be world-class.

However, you're not a powerlifter, so you can't be expected to be as strong as one. That's not your goal.

To answer this goal, I'd have to know what other middleweights are lifting, and I don't know that. But the standard for strength in sports that don't focus on strength are likely always going to be lower than the standard for strength in a strength sport like powerlifting.
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Depends on your height too. An MMA fighter can be like 6'6" and fight at 185 lbs. That guy is not going to be putting up terribly heavy weights, but he could still be a great fighter.

How much do you think this guy can squat?:

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He's managed to do pretty well as a pro fighter though.

On the other hand, there are no elite powerlifters who are that tall and that light.
 
redaxe said:
Depends on your height too. An MMA fighter can be like 6'6" and fight at 185 lbs. That guy is not going to be putting up terribly heavy weights, but he could still be a great fighter.

How much do you think this guy can squat?:

ufc101grove.jpg


He's managed to do pretty well as a pro fighter though.

On the other hand, there are no elite powerlifters who are that tall and that light.
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It also depends on how much tigers blood and adonis DNA the TS has aswell.
 
Serious answer:

There's no such thing as strong enough. Only weak enough that you need to be stronger, or strong enough that perhaps you should put less work into lifting, and more work into something else. Just like there's no such thing as having good enoug conditioning, or good enough technique. It's about what you can do to improve, what qualities you focus on, and what qualities are less of a priority at the moment.
 
KILL KILL said:
It also depends on how much tigers blood and adonis DNA the TS has aswell.
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Yeah, if you don't have those things then you can't hang with middleweights, your bones would melt like wax.
 
redaxe said:
Yeah, if you don't have those things then you can't hang with middleweights, your bones would melt like wax.
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And you'd die, and your children would weep over your exploded body.
 
I'm amazed at how so many mixed martial artists view strength. I see much more of the traditional MA and boxing attitude than I do the wrestler's view. Asking how much strength I need is like asking "How flexible do I need to be?" or "as a middleweight how quick should my reflexes be?" or even "how much gas do I need in my gas tank?"

The answer is always MORE than you currently possess. These are all physical attributes that will give you an advantage over your opponent. In any sport other than strength sports, technique will be the most important tool, even in sports like football and sumo. But a strength advantage will always be beneficial. Do you think guys like Sean sherk, Matt hughes and Brock lesnar would have ever succeeded without a strength advantage? They had good wrestling bases, but their strength complemented their wrestling and made them monsters.
 
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