Whats more impressive, dispatching a fighter within minutes, or outclassing them for the whole fight

Outclassing them for 15 or 25 minutes usually proves more skill, but finishing them is more impressive just for the optics.

Its more impressive because the main goal of martial arts is self defense, not any point contest. Nothing to do with optics
Its actually a retarded question
 
Dominant decisions for me…

15/25 minutes is a long time to be in control of a fighter, especially at the top levels. This is why I’ve always felt St. Pierre’s run of dominance was so impressive. He would almost never find himself in a bad position, and would often leave no doubt who was the better fighter when his hand was raised.

Not beimg able to apply finishing techniques on a trained opponent is now a more impressive display of skill.

Seriously, not even GSP himself, nor any other martial artist, would subscribe this level of BS
 
Its more impressive because the main goal of martial arts is self defense, not any point contest. Nothing to do with optics
Its actually a retarded question

You don't need to be proficient in martial arts to knock the fuck out of someone randomly as a fat heavyweight though.
 
Not necessarily referring to the Jones fight

But what is more impressive generally. Finishing off a fighter very quickly, or outclassing them in every aspect for the whole 3 or 5 rounds, without finishing them?

A good example would be, Conor beating Aldo in 13 seconds, or Max Halloway putting on a clinic on Aldo.

Another question. If Jones had fought Gane and it went 5 rounds, with Jones comfortably winning every round, but was unable to finish him, would that be less or more impressive than finishing him off quickly in minutes?


If it's by grappling then it shows the fighter can most likely do that over and over again since grappling doesn't really have an equivalent of lucky punch. Striking can always have that Asterix. But I think most people would be satisfied in either case unless one fighter does something really out of character like getting caught while taunting etc
 
Not necessarily referring to the Jones fight

But what is more impressive generally. Finishing off a fighter very quickly, or outclassing them in every aspect for the whole 3 or 5 rounds, without finishing them?

A good example would be, Conor beating Aldo in 13 seconds, or Max Halloway putting on a clinic on Aldo.

Another question. If Jones had fought Gane and it went 5 rounds, with Jones comfortably winning every round, but was unable to finish him, would that be less or more impressive than finishing him off quickly in minutes?
Not being able to put someone away despite being more skilled than them doesn’t come off as impressive on paper. What if you lnp for 5 rounds but you’re able to take someone down at will? That’s not that impressive.
 
I like at least a round or two of dominance followed by a good finish.
Quick finishes like McGregor over Aldo leaves the question open of was it luck or skill. Aldo is one of the all time greats but he lost too fast to show any of that. Could McGregor have withstood any of that skill and still knocked him out?
Something like what Holm did to Rousey is much better to me. Dominated the fight, shrugged off everything Ronda tried then knocked her out in spectacular fashion.
 
A nice warm-up round getting your timing right and then just starching the guy in the second round clean and making it look like the fight shouldn't have been sanctioned.
 
You don't need to be proficient in martial arts to knock the fuck out of someone randomly as a fat heavyweight though.

To knock the fuck out of a trained opponent who is also a big, fat HW is not that easy.

Otherwise, by the same logic, you don't need to be proficient in martial arts to lay on someone as a fat heavyweight...

Generally speaking, a fighter who is able to apply finishing techniques on elite competition is more impressive than a fighter who doesn't
 
Easy and quick finish ala Jones and Conor.

A clinic can be an epic domination but it does normally mean that you couldn't quite find a way to put the other guy away, and at the end of the day in a fight it is rendering the other person unable to continue which is the primary goal.
 
As other have said and to the point I agree with is to do over a longer period of time proves you are better a quick KO could be a fluke but what Jones did to Gane is no fluke that how much better he is as a grappler.
 
Depends on the finish.

You get in there and land a huge ass punch in the first minute of the fight may not tell the whole story of what could've been.
But when people are expecting you to do something (in the case of Jones, or even Bo Nickal) and you do it quickly it's really impressive.

But, on the other hand, when you deal with someone in such an impressive way, it kind of make the loser look even worst, and therefore all the "he's a bum" talk will begin.
 
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