What was the main reason Chimaev dominated the 1st round against Usman?

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Because he's a wrestler.

And a grinder.

It takes a lot more energy to take and hold down guys who are proficient in wrestling. Usman made him work for everything.

Costa simply wouldn't have provided that same level of resistance.

Preparing to fight a wrestler is gonna be much more intensely focused on cardio and efficient pacing. Especially someone like Usman. It's just a different fight.

That type of opponent change is no joke

Romero doesn't fight with the intention of using his wrestling effectively. He's a burst heavy and explosive fighter with a ton of muscle, his style doesn't allow him to wrestle in the same way Khabib, islam or Khazmat do. He would get tired.

I think Khazmat would have his way with Costa on the ground and there's nothing he could do.

Romero just isn't a great example because he rarely ever used his wrestling effectively.

So you just assume that Khamzat will have the same success against top ranked MWs cause it worked agianst WWs. Costa is a much better defensive grappler than your giving him credit for and Khamzat's gameplan didn't really change for Usman for what it would have been against Costa. Costa is also bigger, stronger a better striker than Usman, hits harder too. After seeing how competitive Usman was with Khamzat on 10 days notice I'm more confident Costa beats him than before that fight.

 

[theaustrianoak]

His 5 mins of cardio hadn't run out yet

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Moreso I think modern fighters don't have much experience of it, a lot of the time people are able to neutralise grapplers simply via making them work to the degree they give up on grappling for the risk of gassing.

Khamzat will go in HARD for his takedowns similar to say early Shogun and just making him work won't stop him.

Young Shogun had great cardio, much better striking too.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

to be honest, the only reason Usman "survived" that onslaught is because of the bullshit rules of not striking to the back of the head or the spine. in a real fight you can't just turtle up and expose the back of your neck like that.

Chimaev would have literally killed Usman in an actual fight

Imagine being a 2016 yellow belt and thinking this LOL..

What onslaught...
He did nothing... He worked extremely hard for a takedown got hooks and proceeded to not do any damage..and was unable to lock a choke up and got face planted into the mat lol ..


I feel like some of you didnt or werent watching the same fight...just saw Khamzat got a hold of Usman...had a wrestling related Orgasm and fell asleep for the rest...

Oh that control time and holding ...im im im gunna bust ...

ZzzZZZZ zzz

For the rest of round and fight where Khamzat basically got out struck for the rest of the fight

http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/f23e9729b2b73c27


But that first round onslaught tho

 

[icerealm]

khamzat looked really good and is really a monster wrestling, but he broke his hand in round one and still won
but khamzat has no good submission techniques, he only has elite wrestling. he avoided going to the ground with burns a black belt, then here you see usman controlling him and slammed him
khamzat didn't really look gassed, just the broken hand, he definitely has the cardio

tbh i think khamzat will have some problem with paulo
paulo is a natural light heavy weight while usman is a natural middleweight
and that weight difference can affect TDD alot
not to say paulo does have decent grappling

 

[AstralPanda]

So you just assume that Khamzat will have the same success against top ranked MWs cause it worked agianst WWs. Costa is a much better defensive grappler than your giving him credit for and Khamzat's gameplan didn't really change for Usman for what it would have been against Costa. Costa is also bigger, stronger a better striker than Usman, hits harder too. After seeing how competitive Usman was with Khamzat on 10 days notice I'm more confident Costa beats him than before that fight.

Its about the level of wrestling. Not size. Usman is a vastly more competent wrestler than Costa.

Its really that simple. You are going to expend far more energy trying to take and keep down a competent wrestler.

People are grossly underestimating just how significant it is that Khazmat was able to do this.

I don't see Costa providing that level of resistance in the wrestling/ grappling that Usman did.

That sort of opponent change is a big deal when it comes to conditioning.

If you think the preparation would be the same for usman vs Costa, I'm not sure what to say.

It's just a different fight.

I think khazmat did make some poor enrrgy choices in that first round though. Holding onto the body triangle like that for so long will drain you real fast.

Anyone believing Costa beats him is a little crazy at this point.

Terrible style fight for him in every way

 

[AstralPanda]

Imagine being a 2016 yellow belt and thinking this LOL..

What onslaught...
He did nothing... He worked extremely hard for a takedown got hooks and proceeded to not do any damage..and was unable to lock a choke up and got face planted into the mat lol ..


I feel like some of you didnt or werent watching the same fight...just saw Khamzat got a hold of Usman...had a wrestling related Orgasm and fell asleep for the rest...

Oh that control time and holding ...im im im gunna bust ...

ZzzZZZZ zzz

For the rest of round and fight where Khamzat basically got out struck for the rest of the fight

http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/f23e9729b2b73c27


But that first round onslaught tho

I think you're underestimating the significance of being able to dominate the wrestling and grappling over someone like usman

Even if he didn't do much damage, that was the most significant story of the fight in every round.

It accounts for a lot more than whatever pitter patter usman landed.

 

[lagofala]

Size and superior grappling. Fight probably would be different in a 5 rounder.

 

[Dionysian]

Shouldn't Jones be up there? Probably has more fights and I only recall Gus taking him down, and technically DC in the first fight which was a TD he couldn't secure.

Not that I disagree on the Khamzat-Usman thing. That was highly impressive.

I'm quoting the UFC's broadcast as of yesterday. They said he had the highest / listed it as being 97.4%.

 

[TheMaster]

Vettori has great TDD, cardio and pace, I think he's a terrible match up for Khamzat, same with Cannonier, Costa and Whittaker. DDP is more winnable IMO cause his TDD isn't as good but he's tough as fuck and has a great gas tank and huge finishing ability.

Khamzat just fought Usman(WW) on 10 days notice who's also almost 40 and I had it 28-28. Khamzat was overrated as fuck at MW.

Usman is 36, not far off prime. He also keeps in shape between camps and wasn't undersized, he wanted this match up for months.
The way he got dominated was crazy in rd one, but I think he takes it in a 5 rd fight. If Chimaev can up his cardio then he becomes a formidable force for anyone at MW.