What the heck.. TJ Dillashaw STRUGGLES to squat 185 yet he took supplements?

[TheRuthlessOne]

Easily one or the dumbest things you can possibly say

Context is everything

The reality is that squats nd deadlifts are fundamental movement that are ingrained into our biology

If you aren't doing them or have another means like to accomplish a similar muscular balance, you are far less than you could be

Would be interesting to hear where George's said this, sounds like you probably took him out of context.

Go find the interview then you fucking muppet

Fucking try hard LOSER piece of shit

You think I just say shit just to say it?

I KNOW MORE ABOUT MMA THEN YOU DO

{GSP} The only reason it is good to lift weights, to do bench press, and stuff like that, I believe, is because it is going to make me more marketable, and to keep myself looking more symmetric, with a better image... Which is very important, because if you look good, you feel good, and if you feel good, you do good. There's nothing wrong with that you know.

You lift weights for looks?

{GSP}Yeah, I lift weights for looks. Yeah, I am gonna admit it. Sometimes after I'm training, I'm gonna lift weights, but I'm not doing it because I'm gonna punch harder, or I'm gonna be stronger, because it has nothing to do with it. I'm doing it because you know, I want to to be like you know, have a good shape. I do it for myself.

 

[KhabibTheBeagle]

He also said he's been abducted by aliens.

You can't prove he wasn't

 

[Final Say]

I mentioned clearly that adequate muscular balance can be attained by various means


Proper lifting being one of them. They are different means of accomplishing similar bodily goals. Point being suggesting that lifting makes no difference is just a really ignorant thing to say.

Go talk to some wrestlers, Jiu jitsu or judo practitioners, boxers, kick boxers and athletes of all types and they'll tell you how important lifting can be.

A body is a catalyst for your talent and potential skill wise, if it's not functioning at its absolute best in all areas then you are just less than you could be.

But again lifting is just one method. Body weight training, plyometics, gymnastics among other things. All really just replications of movements we've been doing since the beginning of time really

Well that was my original point which is that you don't need to do any power lifting. You can literally never do it and still be an all time great fighter in really any sport.

Of course it depends on your style and preferences but it really means nothing at all when it comes to fight time.

 

[WHITE ANDERSON]

EPO helps you lift big numbers?
that's news to me bro

 

[boyer]

Well that was my original point which is that you don't need to do any power lifting. You can literally never do it and still be an all time great fighter in really any sport.

Of course it depends on your style and preferences but it really means nothing at all when it comes to fight time.

If it means nothing when it comes to fight time, why does it depend on your style and preferences?

 

[MescalineDreams]

Well that was my original point which is that you don't need to do any power lifting. You can literally never do it and still be an all time great fighter in really any sport.

Of course it depends on your style and preferences but it really means nothing at all when it comes to fight time.

I don't disagree in that there are many means to an end, but you have to pick one or ideally multiple.

It's just the way you worded it I guess, that lifting doesn't make a difference. It can absolutely be a game changer and I can personally attest to this.

For example I've mostly been boxing over the last year all while doing a lot of squat, deadlifts, working the lower kinetic chain in general, posture and upper back training, neck training, etc. the shit I can do is night and day. It just flows. Broke through multiple plateaus.

People don't really realize how imbalanced they can be muscle wise and how much it can impede their full potential performance wise in various disiclines.

Having the talent and mind for an art is one thing but it will only take you so far if you're lacking in any area. As always we're only as strong as our weakest link

But if that was your point then I agree. Kevin Lee for example doesn't lift, he does a lot of body weight stuff. All means to a similar end though

 

[MescalineDreams]

Go find the interview then you fucking muppet

Fucking try hard LOSER piece of shit

You think I just say shit just to say it?

I KNOW MORE ABOUT MMA THEN YOU DO

Lol wow are you okay kid

Projecting hard right now

There's really no logic in what George's said here, must have been a ally long time ago.

He doesn't really give much of an explanation either, hard to really take him seriously.

Maybe trying to throw his competition off or something. He's smart like that. Would be interesting to hear his current opinion in his retirement.

In any case, I'm sure you think you know a lot. Until you prove it though you can relax ur inner man child. Kid acts like I just slapped his mother

In any case, anyone who tries to say lifting makes no difference in mma is going to get a whole mess of shit by people who do genuinely do martial arts and lifts.

It will never not be an absurd statement and anyone who tries to argue it has zero clue what they're talking about

Anyone who says"I know more about mma than you" comes off as a joke as well.

But go off

 

[HwoarangStyle]

the dude is a damned midget, give the little guy a break

 

[MescalineDreams]

Go find the interview then you fucking muppet

Fucking try hard LOSER piece of shit

You think I just say shit just to say it?

I KNOW MORE ABOUT MMA THEN YOU DO

I love George's but I think he should often be taken with a grain of salt

There is such a drastic variation between things he says, he's also promoting himself, playing mind games and all sorts of shit.

He's a student of gymnastics so he's very well aware of the importance of proper muscular balance. I find it extremely hard to believe that he wouldn't be well aware of the benefits of proper weight lifting

So my immediate thought is that he's throwing his opponents off or fucking around somehow

Regardless of what the case may be, it doesn't matter who said it, it's absurd and ignorant and 99 percent of all athletes would disagree with it. Doesn't necessarily mean that lifting is the only way to achieve the same goals but it is one of the tried and proven ways

Crazy how mad you got all of a sudden for no reason, damn son. Sounds like you could use a lifting sesh to exercise those beta emotions out of u

 

[Final Say]

If it means nothing when it comes to fight time, why does it depend on your style and preferences?

It means zero in the sense that someone who does absolutely no lifting can wipe the floor and outclass someone who lifts a ton, even in situations where strength is a factor. Like I said, TJ would annihilate much bigger men who can lift 3 times his body weight with ease.

I don't disagree in that there are many means to an end, but you have to pick one or ideally multiple.

It's just the way you worded it I guess, that lifting doesn't make a difference. It can absolutely be a game changer and I can personally attest to this.

For example I've mostly been boxing over the last year all while doing a lot of squat, deadlifts, working the lower kinetic chain in general, posture and upper back training, neck training, etc. the shit I can do is night and day. It just flows. Broke through multiple plateaus.

People don't really realize how imbalanced they can be muscle wise and how much it can impede their full potential performance wise in various disiclines.

Having the talent and mind for an art is one thing but it will only take you so far if you're lacking in any area. As always we're only as strong as our weakest link

But if that was your point then I agree. Kevin Lee for example doesn't lift, he does a lot of body weight stuff. All means to a similar end though

It can also hurt. It really depends on how you use it or if it fits your body type and style. Has effects on your flexibility, fluidity of movement, weight distribution, overall weight, etc..

But as I said above, whether a person lifts or not really won't have any bearing on the outcome of a fight, particularly at TJ's level. I'd actually say that applies even more so to boxing than any other sport. Power lifting doesn't even necessarily translate to power in fighting applications.

 

[dim_]

he juiced and produced some pathetic squat numbers. Check out the video below at :27 seconds



2x 45 plates 2x 25 playes 45 bar thats 185....

Tj has a weight of 155 when not cutting. Round that up to 160. According to strengthlevel.com a human man weighing 160 should lift 137 as beginner, 192 as novice, 258 as intermediate. You get the point. So what happened with TJ?

He was on every supplement from here to Makhachkala yet he produced some minuscule numbers. Buy before you say “but suh dude this is MMA not weight lifting” you have to consider this. tj is a professional athlete of a sport that trains tendon strength. He was also on enough juice to make the coolaid man blush. A similar fellow user is job jones. He squatted 500 pounds!

Not only was Tj a snake but he was on snake oil supplements.

you dont know what EPO is for do you?

 

[boyer]

It means zero in the sense that someone who does absolutely no lifting can wipe the floor and outclass someone who lifts a ton, even in situations where strength is a factor. Like I said, TJ would annihilate much bigger men who can lift 3 times his body weight with ease.

It can also hurt. It really depends on how you use it or if it fits your body type and style. Has effects on your flexibility, fluidity of movement, weight distribution, overall weight, etc..

But as I said above, whether a person lifts or not really won't have any bearing on the outcome of a fight, particularly at TJ's level. I'd actually say that applies even more so to boxing than any other sport. Power lifting doesn't even necessarily translate to power in fighting applications.

It means zero in the sense that someone who does absolutely no lifting can wipe the floor and outclass someone who lifts a ton, even in situations where strength is a factor. Like I said, TJ would annihilate much bigger men who can lift 3 times his body weight with ease.

It can also hurt. It really depends on how you use it or if it fits your body type and style. Has effects on your flexibility, fluidity of movement, weight distribution, overall weight, etc..

But as I said above, whether a person lifts or not really won't have any bearing on the outcome of a fight, particularly at TJ's level. I'd actually say that applies even more so to boxing than any other sport. Power lifting doesn't even necessarily translate to power in fighting applications.

In grappling ki

It means zero in the sense that someone who does absolutely no lifting can wipe the floor and outclass someone who lifts a ton, even in situations where strength is a factor. Like I said, TJ would annihilate much bigger men who can lift 3 times his body weight with ease.

It can also hurt. It really depends on how you use it or if it fits your body type and style. Has effects on your flexibility, fluidity of movement, weight distribution, overall weight, etc..

But as I said above, whether a person lifts or not really won't have any bearing on the outcome of a fight, particularly at TJ's level. I'd actually say that applies even more so to boxing than any other sport. Power lifting doesn't even necessarily translate to power in fighting applications.

I guess all these strength and conditioning coaches are a waste of money.

 

[Final Say]

In grappling ki

I guess all these strength and conditioning coaches are a waste of money.

You can spend years doing a vast amount of varied and complicated strength and conditioning..... and never do any power lifts

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

I love George's but I think he should often be taken with a grain of salt

There is such a drastic variation between things he says, he's also promoting himself, playing mind games and all sorts of shit.

He's a student of gymnastics so he's very well aware of the importance of proper muscular balance. I find it extremely hard to believe that he wouldn't be well aware of the benefits of proper weight lifting

So my immediate thought is that he's throwing his opponents off or fucking around somehow

Regardless of what the case may be, it doesn't matter who said it, it's absurd and ignorant and 99 percent of all athletes would disagree with it. Doesn't necessarily mean that lifting is the only way to achieve the same goals but it is one of the tried and proven ways

Crazy how mad you got all of a sudden for no reason, damn son. Sounds like you could use a lifting sesh to exercise those beta emotions out of u

Shook as fuck

Challenge me and I smack you down like the bitch you are

Try harder next time BRO

LOL

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

All mma fighters should focus on is cardio and grip/core strength

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

You can spend years doing a vast amount of varied and complicated strength and conditioning..... and never do any power lifts

Male gymnasts are fucking huge and ripped and dont lift weights. I'd like to see one of those guys do a 1rm on bench or squat , they could probably do 3x their body weight for bench

 

[Final Say]

Male gymnasts are fucking huge and ripped and dont lift weights. I'd like to see one of those guys do a 1rm on bench or squat , they could probably do 3x their body weight for bench

I wouldn't be so sure. They can probably do ridiculous body weight workouts, probably would do well in grappling, but may not be able to lift heavy weights at all. Shit doesn't always translate and physique can be deceiving for sure

 

[boyer]

You can spend years doing a vast amount of varied and complicated strength and conditioning..... and never do any power lifts

Sure you could if you didnt want to gain every competitive advantage possible over your opponent. Thats what all athletes at high levels are willing to do. Im assuming you never have even been a high school athlete. Sure there's guys who dont really work all that hard but theyre naturally gifted. Like Jon Jones or not kinda hard to argue he isnt the goat and he powerlifts. Since they are fighting tonight, I'm pretty sure I remember Cerrone saying hes gotten alot stronger lifting and we've seen tony doing deads.

 

[iwillbebackin3weeks]

I don't disagree in that there are many means to an end, but you have to pick one or ideally multiple.

It's just the way you worded it I guess, that lifting doesn't make a difference. It can absolutely be a game changer and I can personally attest to this.

For example I've mostly been boxing over the last year all while doing a lot of squat, deadlifts, working the lower kinetic chain in general, posture and upper back training, neck training, etc. the shit I can do is night and day. It just flows. Broke through multiple plateaus.

People don't really realize how imbalanced they can be muscle wise and how much it can impede their full potential performance wise in various disiclines.

Having the talent and mind for an art is one thing but it will only take you so far if you're lacking in any area. As always we're only as strong as our weakest link

But if that was your point then I agree. Kevin Lee for example doesn't lift, he does a lot of body weight stuff. All means to a similar end though

theres a lot of bro science in MMA (+ in BJJ) so its pointless ... bruh.

 

[The Renegade]

That is an oddly low weight to be using for squats.