What stage do you believe UFC is at?

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I made another thread two or three days ago that quickly became lol'ed because of bad takes, so...

The thing is: NBA, NFL, football (I'm from Spain, so I mean soccer I guess)... have evolved a huge leap once advanced stats/data analysis set in.

NBA is 75+ years old, most popular sports competition in the world from the early 90s (I was a Jordan's witness, man I'm old...) and still, no coach back then could foresee a team playing like the Warriors or the current Celtics.
No coach could ask for a player like Curry, Jokic or Luka. They would never "happened", the game just wasn't there yet.

"MMA on a cage" is very, very young and still niche even if the martial arts involved stand for centuries: they were not crafted or teached for this means.

Do you believe UFC will evolve as it keeps growing, producing not "better" athletes per se, but athletes that will approach fights in ways we may feel counterintuitive but will prove effective?

TL;DR Will the UFC undergo some pivotal landmark due to advanced stats, like D'Antoni's Suns or GSW? Will it guide fighters towards a whole different fight game, as if we compared the way Kareem and Jokic play?
 
UFC is on the downward stage. It’s losing popularity, losing fans, and losing fighters with any appeal. It’s actually become even more of a fringe sport with watered down cards and unlikeable athletes. It’s the sports version of disco. I enjoy disco music but most people hate it with a passion just like the UFC.
 
It's doing what the WWE is doing. focusing solely on the brand rather than the entertainers.


What both are working towards is convincing their audience that their promotion is the best in the world. regardless of who they sign.

As long as the promotion is bigger than the competitors, They'll always have business no matter what.
 
Corrado Soprano said:
UFC is on the downward stage. It’s losing popularity, losing fans, and losing fighters with any appeal. It’s actually become even more of a fringe sport with watered down cards and unlikeable athletes. It’s the sports version of disco. I enjoy disco music but most people hate it with a passion just like the UFC.
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Well I almost answered this question in the other thread, but refrained since I don't know too much basketball in detail. But my impression is this

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Was like the "Jordan" era, and we're in a slight lull but we will get crazy fighters (again) soon. Maybe it'll look something like the golden era again. Ruleset and policy changes I think will be necessary to facilitate it though
 
End of #Sportcism stage, much like post civil rights #Inclusive era of US.

I expect many much crossover event with wrestling champions of WWE and world class Strikers from #PowerSlap

In additional sorry fi my English I was not been practice fi a while as I was mainly being speaking in Canadan lol I was needing practice again 😱

#DEI
 
MMA will not last IMHO. The entire point of the sport is to hurt someone... it is painfully obvious that the NFL is gradually getting people used to flag football knowing the change will eventually happen down the line.

Minotauro Nogueira aka Zombie Nog is only 48 years old FFS. We haven't even seen the iceberg of what's to come with CTE issues from MMA. Go watch a video of modern day Nam Phan and tell me MMA is going to have some 100+ year history to look back upon and he didn't absorb nearly the damage as someone like Tony Ferguson who will probably be a cautionary tale within 10-15 years.

Enjoy MMA while it lasts because it will very likely become like asbestos, lead paint, and chain smoking as a dangerous anomaly from the past that people look at with bewilderment that it ever existed
 
Granted you have more shooters now, and teams are deeper in the NBA. Nonetheless, that does not mean that individual players weren't just as good or better from that day. A lot of them (Larry Bird anyone?) would have adjusted well to the 3-point game, certainly Jordan would have.

The statistics of the 3 dominant centers from 3 eras declined as their competition increased- Shaq/Hakeem, Kareem, Wilt. No one could average 24 rebounds for a career like Wilt against modern competition, but that doesn't mean Wilt would not be a star in today's game. He just wouldn't have the same stats and level of dominance. Their stats would not have declined with each era if competition hadn't increased.

MMA is pretty much the same way. Yes, the overall roster has gotten deeper with time, but that doesn't mean that stars from earlier times (starting in the early to mid 2000s and up) aren't as good or better than the new stars.

Curling is a niche sport, not really MMA BTW. It's a long way from the NBA/NFL, but it isn't niche.
 
Maybe the stagnant stage of a business. It goes without saying Dana White has done plenty for the sport. Yes maybe it was done in the name of greed, ego etc but he did contribute. With that being said, current contract structure and pay ceilings aren't attractive at all. The glamor of being an MMA fighter has already worn down. If you want future athletes to pursue MMA the pay has to change. Otherwise it's always going to be a backup sport
 
Like I said on the other thread you made, the best fighters we have seen so far - the Jones's, GSPs, Fedors, DJs, Khabibs, Aldos etc etc, they have already pretty much reached the ceiling of how good its possible for a human to be at MMA.

We are over 20 years past stuff like Fedor/Nog 1 and Chuck/Randy 1 and the combined skill level in those fights is higher than most or all fights we see in those divisions today. Currently we have a 37 year old kickboxer who only started taking MMA seriously in Covid times as the champion in a division that he probably wouldnt have been top 5 in a decade ago, and we are going crazy over Aspinall when circa 2010 we had Cain, JDS, Brock, Carwin, Mir in the UFC and Ubereem, DC, Werdum, Bigfoot, Barnett, Fedor, Kharitanov and Arlovski in Strikeforce.

It peaked.
 
Its definitely on the decline. But theres soo many ways for the UFC to make a profit with all the social media crap nowadays that im not sure they care if they keep pushing out watered down garbage cards.
 
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