Opinion What Measures Make a President Successful?

[Rob Battisti]

We all piss and moan about whichever president is in office. We all complain about social issues or the economy.

Typically all of this vitriol is aimed toward whichever party we don’t like.

My question for you all is, irrespective of political party, which measures do you look for to determine if a president is successful or not?

My five are:

- Real Wage Growth: Defined as the increase in wages adjusted for inflation, reflecting changes in the purchasing power of workers earnings over time. It is calculated by taking the nominal wage growth (the percentage increase in wages before inflation) and subtracting the inflation rate.

- Net Illegal Immigration: Defined as the difference between the number of people entering a country unlawfully and those leaving or being removed over a given period. It accounts for unauthorized border crossings, visa overstays, and other forms of illegal entry, minus deportations, voluntary departures, and adjustments to legal status.

- GDP growth: Defined as the percentage increase in a country’s gross domestic product (GDP) over a specific period, typically measured quarterly or annually. It indicates how much the economy has expanded or contracted and is a key indicator of economic health.

- Real Adjusted Job Creation: The net number of jobs created in an economy after adjusting for factors such as population growth, workforce participation rates, inflationary effects, and seasonal fluctuations. It provides a more accurate measure of whether job growth is keeping pace with economic and demographic changes.

- Adversarial Dominance: Refers to the strategic state in which one entity, such as a nation, maintains a superior position over an opponent or rival in a competitive or conflict-driven environment. This dominance can manifest in various domains, including military power, economic influence, technological superiority, or strategic positioning.

What are your measures?

 

[Cole train]

How much my bank account grows or goes down during presidents term

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Personal feelings. Biden made people feel bad, so nothing he did was good vs. Trump makes people feel good, so nothing he does is bad.

 

[gentel]

• Real wage growth - especially the median and bottom 25% of earners
• Environment - reduced CO2 emissions, green energy and reduced pollution domestically and international cooperation to reduce it abroad
• Military - should shut down the efforts of the world's aggressors like China in the Pacific and Russia in Ukraine, and not starting unnecessary wars like Bush's Iraq War

Personally I don't think illegal immigration is a major priority, these Latino immigrants are showing up here and mainly benefiting the economy by working hard for low pay, and the economic output of that labor then circulates around the economy and benefits the citizens

 

[Rob Battisti]

• Real wage growth - especially the median and bottom 25% of earners
• Environment - reduced CO2 emissions, green energy and reduced pollution domestically and international cooperation to reduce it abroad
• Military - should shut down the efforts of the world's aggressors like China in the Pacific and Russia in Ukraine, and not starting unnecessary wars like Bush's Iraq War

Personally I don't think illegal immigration is a major priority, these Latino immigrants are showing up here and mainly benefiting the economy by working hard for low pay, and the economic output of that labor then circulates around the economy and benefits the citizens

How do you hold a president accountable for CO2 when other global actors add way more than we can reduce?

 

[gentel]

How do you hold a president accountable for CO2 when other global actors add way more than we can reduce?

WRT the current administration: Not pulling out of the Paris Accord, showing open contempt for for climate science, erasing climate info on govt websites, and deregulating CO2 and other pollution

For higher standards than that though:

• Passing bills to manufacture green energy tech in the US
• Passing tighter domestic CO2 regulation and enforcement
• Fund green energy installation and infrastructure (including nuclear)
• Pushing the issue on more climate pacts with stricter requirements (and if the US reduces emissions we have more grounds to call for others to do the same)

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Survive assassination attempts.

 

[Rob Battisti]

WRT the current administration: Not pulling out of the Paris Accord, showing open contempt for for climate science, erasing climate info on govt websites, and deregulating CO2 and other pollution

For higher standards than that though:

• Passing bills to manufacture green energy tech in the US
• Passing tighter domestic CO2 regulation and enforcement
• Fund green energy installation and infrastructure (including nuclear)
• Pushing the issue on more climate pacts with stricter requirements (and if the US reduces emissions we have more grounds to call for others to do the same)

So essentially it’s just doing something versus actually making an impact?

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Common sense. Senile Joe Biden and Woke Kakala Harris had none of this quality.

 

[gentel]

So essentially it’s just doing something versus actually making an impact?

Do the bill passing and treaty enactment today, then the impact comes years later when the funded solar panels are fully manufactured and deployed

 

[Rob Battisti]

Do the bill passing and treaty enactment today, then the impact comes years later when the funded solar panels are fully manufactured and deployed

I am not attacking what you feel is important.

It just feels silly to believe that solar panels in the USA will offset the tremendous negative environmental policies of India, China and soon to be Africa.

 

[Gamer2k4]

Economics, law, foreign policy, and legacy. I want my dollar to go farther and my investments to grow. I want criminals to be caught and punished. I want the US out of foreign wars. And I want these policies to persist after the President is out of office (whether that's by new laws, new Supreme Court justices, or any other way).

 

[gatchaman]

As go apex predators so goes the ecosystem. Similarly, stripclubs are the barometer of the success of a nation.


Canada reached USD parity in 2007 and was ranked number one on the human development index from 1994-2000,
but signs of decline were already in stripclubs in the late 90s. I remember fondly when immigration talk was centered around drafting Romanian strippers, and then this dark day came in 2004.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/embattled-minister-promises-changes-to-exotic-dancer-rules-1.476518

 

[djacobox372]

How much my bank account grows or goes down during presidents term

By this measure Biden was very successful.

Stock Market = 60% gain

 

[aerius]

Actual accomplishments vs. claims. I look at how well he was able to deliver on his campaign promises. If I'm promised a $5000 increase in disposable income I better see that on my paycheck, if he says he's going to improve education I should be seeing results on international test scores, if he says he's going to fix healthcare I damn well better see a lot of execs in the industry going to jail for corruption, and so on & so forth. Now if a President somehow gets elected after saying "I'm just here to collect a paycheck, don't expect me to do anything" and he accomplishes nothing, well, that's a pretty successful guy by my standard since he accomplished exactly what he said he would.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I am not attacking what you feel is important.

It just feels silly to believe that solar panels in the USA will offset the tremendous negative environmental policies of India, China and soon to be Africa.

Tbh that's what you actually should be using tariffs for.

 

[I Am Legion]

Afte all the damage the Biden Administration did over the last 4 years, all I want form Trump is to close the border, deport gangs and criminals, and help us get to a point where inflation is just inflation, not hyperinflation.

 

[Islam Imamate]

A president's success comes from implementing a successful domestic policy agenda through a combination of working through Congressional legislation and executive orders, effective grand strategy and diplomacy on the world stage, and managing crises both foreign and domestic.

 

[Rob Battisti]

A president's success comes from implementing a successful domestic policy agenda through a combination of working through Congressional legislation and executive orders, effective grand strategy and diplomacy on the world stage, and managing crises both foreign and domestic.

Isn’t all of that subjective?

By those measures, isn’t Trump successfully implementing his strategy?

Do you have any hard measures?

 

[Rob Battisti]

Tbh that's what you actually should be using tariffs for.

I mean, he is putting tariffs on China now.