Opinion What is your opinion on Republic of North Macedonia(FYROM) ?

[bad mojo]

Over a million Albanians were expelled from Kosova during war time and around 10000 or possibly more killed . Is it clear who was commiting genocide and ethnic cleansing in who.

We'll never agree on that, but we don't have to. If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? Do you see your future in Kosovo? I know that a lot of young Albanians are leaving?

 

[forum poster]

Its alright.

 

[ferrari]

We'll never agree on that, but we don't have to. If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? Do you see your future in Kosovo? I know that a lot of young Albanians are leaving?

If an good profitable opportunity which would be temporary shows up i would take it but overall i dont want to leave the country. Yeah there a lot of fellow young albanians who wont do shit here in order for the country to progress but who would work their asses off in the west , The country will never get better if there is no one to work it . Its sad actually because many people left the diaspora to come and fight in war. The national awareness is dropping day by day(Thats a thing in the whole Balkan i guess) and thats a reason too.
They just need to know that the western is not the paradise they think it is . Also i think this is a thing with all of Balkan population .

 

[phoenixikki]

I like where this thread is going. Man Balkan history is so fucking complicated, American history is like kindergarten level compared to it.

 

[ferrari]

I like where this thread is going. Man Balkan history is so fucking complicated, American history is like kindergarten level compared to it.

Yeah . I think there should be an History sub-forum here in Sherdog.
Admins refuse to create it though.

 

[Caudillo]

I didn't see anyone claiming Serbs to be the victims. All that was posted were facts. When Yougoslavia fell apart, Croats, muslims in Bosnia, Albanians in Kosovo were all given support for independence by EU, US and NATO. Serbs outside the borders of Serbia were denied the same right. How many Serbs were there in Croatia, how many are there now? How many Serbs lived in Kosovo before NATO bombings, how many now?

It's the same story as it was during ww2. Croats, muslims in Bosnia, Albanians, all sided with the nazis. Serbs were the only nation in Balkans that stood up and fought, that's why more than 2 million of us were killed then. Unlike other nations in Balkans, Serbs were the only ones who fought the oppressors, whomever they might be. And that doesn't jive with globalist agenda. That's why CNN, Sky, BBC and every other "media" worked overtime to paint the picture for the rest of the world to see. Today, everyone knows that they're not the news source, they're propaganda machine. If there were internet and social networks back in the 90s, history would be completely different. But it is what is. Not the first time my people were backed into a corner.

This is an important fact that gets overlooked.

Look at which side CHOSE to join the nazis. That war was simply to stick it to Russia and American hubris.

 

[ocfightfan]

I don't know but I fucking crushed Macedonia in Rome: Total War (RS2 mod) as the Dacians. Fuck them and their phalanxes, I will swarm you with ridiculously cheap horse archers

Reminds me of playing Civlization back in the day and conquering the world in 1982 (game date) while still rolling on chariots.

 

[grimballer]

Are you that dumb or you just want to be that ? You are not natiev in Balkans you came from carpates here in the 7th century . You would barely or you wouldnt even find EV-13 in any North African , even if we had any connections with North Africans that was tens of thousands years ago

"The Y-chromosome lineage E-V13 appears to have originated in Greece or the southern Balkans and is high in Greeks as well as in Albanians, southern Italians and southern Slavs. E-V13 is also found in Corsicans and Provencals," Albanians look nothing like North Africans and also our language is nothing like them so there is not any real connection with them.

Ancient samples in the former terriotry of Illyria . All three haplogroups are found in Albanians.
Genetics are a mess but even they indicate that we are most likely the descendants of Illyrians or maybe even Thracians , We are certainly Autochthonous here in Balkan whether you like it or not.

This guy...

You argue, but at the same time agree with my point

E or e1b that is main group among Albanians comes from North Africa.

Nobody said that they weren’t there for long time or that e1b that we find in Europe today didn’t mutate over the years n is different than the of North Africa

The point is its not the original European group

The proto Europeans are the I group

The proto Southern Europeans are the I2 group

N it’s highest concentration is still in the balkans

Today’s south Slavs are the original inhabitants of balkans genetically.

They live in the region that ancient illyrians lived, so they are most likely descendants of ancient illyrians who mixed with Slavs n started speaking a Slavic language.

now if you argue that since they speak a Slavic language somehow it discredits them from claiming to be the original inhabitants, then Albanians are discredited too since they converted to Turkish religion.

Now if you still somehow insist that it’s not the same thing n Albanians “preserved” their culture, whats that exactly?

Are they the illyrians that lived on the territory of former Yugoslavia?

Is there any credible link?

Illyrians disappear around the time of Slavic migration to the balkans in 6 n 7 century n Albanians are mentioned for the 1st time in 12th century.

By that time serbs are already living in the region n Kosovo was Serbian land n inhabited by exclusivity by Serbs. There are almost no Albanians there at the time.

After ottoman occupation Serbs were driven out n replaced by Albanians who took ottoman religion.

Of course it didn’t happen over night. It was a long process n demographics changed from overwhelming Serb majority to overwhelming Albanian majority

Albanians used every opportunity to reduce Serbian population.

Every time there was a conflict or instability in the region they would expel/kill Serbs.

Now it’s funny you claim it as “your land”, yet you use Serbian name for it

KOSOVO - kos meaning blackbird n ovo possessive form added at the end of words

It comes from Kosovo Polje which means blackbirds field

Just cause you change one letter at the end of it n call it Kosova doesn’t make it Albanian