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What is the general consensus of Fury-Klitchko 2?

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Would Wladimir pull off one last good show or was Fury just too good?

I could never predict this one, it pains me we never got to see it.
 
I for one believe that the version of Wlad we saw against AJ was better than the one that showed up against Fury and Jennings. Wlad was slipping because of his age but also because he got bored IMO. It's hard to tell if a focused version of him would have been good enough to beat Fury in 2016, though. I think he had a shot provided he brought enough agression, but it's hard to tell, really.
 
I'm actually glad we never got it. The first fight was that bad. It was one of the worst heavyweight title fights ever. As for Wlad's chances I don't think any version of him would've beaten 2015 Fury. Too rangy, crafty and mobile. Emanuel Steward once told Wlad that they'd eventually fight and he'd lose to Fury. He could see it even back then and this was 15 years ago.
 
I'm actually glad we never got it. The first fight was that bad. It was one of the worst heavyweight title fights ever. As for Wlad's chances I don't think any version of him would've beaten 2015 Fury. Too rangy, crafty and mobile. Emanuel Steward once told Wlad that they'd eventually fight and he'd lose to Fury. He could see it even back then and this was 15 years ago.
I completely disagree. One of my favorite fights. Long time champion punches air and is completely helpless to reverse it. A chess match.
 
Fury is so unstable and unpredictable Klitschko wouldn't have surprised me a bit pulling it off. That was before Fury showed us who he was though so we didn't know he'd get hooked on drugs or gain a hundred pounds. If it happened at that time, I'd have picked Fury but we know now who he really is, he finds a way to lose or look bad everytime.
 
I completely disagree. One of my favorite fights. Long time champion punches air and is completely helpless to reverse it. A chess match.
Nobody was genuinely entertained by that feint fest. I might be one of the only people on this forum that even bothered to rewatch it. Fury won handily in a complete stinker and had Wlad so frustrated that he headbutted him in there. I'd never seen Wlad do anything like that in his entire career.
 
Nobody was genuinely entertained by that feint fest. I might be one of the only people on this forum that even bothered to rewatch it. Fury won handily in a complete stinker and had Wlad so frustrated that he headbutted him in there. I'd never seen Wlad do anything like that in his entire career.
You know whats strange about Wladimir. He's a great athlete, but a robotic great athlete. Great puncher. But not a great combination puncher. Great mover, but not a great offensive mover.

He's like a robot with perfect technique.
 
You know whats strange about Wladimir. He's a great athlete, but a robotic great athlete. Great puncher. But not a great combination puncher. Great mover, but not a great offensive mover.

He's like a robot with perfect technique.
He's robotic and fights in a rigid fashion. No real creativity to what he does. Wlad wants his opponents to be standing directly in front of him so that he can blast them out. Fury was never going to afford him the opportunity. He knew to box & move. You have to turn Wlad and keep him off balance. Fury did that and befuddled him with constant feints and his awkward herky-jerky rhythm.
 
That's a little much.
I don't think so. Steward probably would've agreed with me on that if he was still around. Fury was always going to be a real headache for Wlad stylistically. He's rangier, more mobile, quicker, and isn't gun shy. He was already in Wlad's head before the fight even started telling him that he would KO him.
 
He's robotic and fights in a rigid fashion. No real creativity to what he does. Wlad wants his opponents to be standing directly in front of him so that he can blast them out. Fury was never going to afford him the opportunity. He knew to box & move. You have to turn Wlad and keep him off balance. Fury did that and befuddled him with constant feints and his awkward herky-jerky rhythm.
But why are the heavies so damn littered with stocky, shorter fighters and not tall rangy ones like wlad and fury? Is it simply because taller people are more rare? Or they dont try out heavyweight boxing?
 
I don't think so. Steward probably would've agreed with me on that if he was still around. Fury was always going to be a real headache for Wlad stylistically. He's rangier, more mobile, quicker, and isn't gun shy. He was already in Wlad's head before the fight even started telling him that he would KO him.
What I want to know is if that Fury is a hall of famer or if he just exposed a chi*nk in the armor.

When I first saw it I was convinced this is a modern day Ali. I rated Fury way higher than I do today
 
What I want to know is if that Fury is a hall of famer or if he just exposed a chi*nk in the armor.

When I first saw it I was convinced this is a modern day Ali. I rated Fury way higher than I do today
I wouldn't vote for him to get into the International Boxing Hall of Fame but he will get in on name value alone. So will Joshua. The standards aren't as high anymore. When you see guys like Gatti & Barry McGuigan get in that tells you where we're at today. Fury abused his body badly which caused physical decline. He also regressed as a fighter in terms of his skills when he started relying heavily on leaning all over his opponents. He looked like a very different fighter a decade ago.
 
I wouldn't vote for him to get into the International Boxing Hall of Fame but he will get in on name value alone. So will Joshua. The standards aren't as high anymore. When you see guys like Gatti & Barry McGuigan get in that tells you where we're at today. Fury abused his body badly which caused physical decline. He also regressed as a fighter in terms of his skills when he started relying heavily on leaning all over his opponents. He looked like a very different fighter a decade ago.
Last finesse Fury I can remember was from the first Wilder fight. He became a slugger after that, or mixed styles.
 
Last finesse Fury I can remember was from the first Wilder fight. He became a slugger after that, or mixed styles.
He moved reasonably well in the first Wilder fight but a few years prior his mobility was a lot better. What he became was a mauler under SugarHill Steward. The upside being that it made him more entertaining and he had a string of stoppage wins to show for it. The issue that he developed is that he relied too much on trying to impose his size in the clinch. He started to only throw one or two shots at a time and then grab opponents (jab & grab, basically). To his credit he did develop a power jab and rear uppercut. Realistically though he would've been better served boxing intelligently on the back foot and using his range rather than focusing on being a front foot fighter.
 
Steward said that he'd lose? I can't imagine Steward being a jerk to Wladimir.
How's that being a jerk? It was merely a forewarning. Manny Steward had long predicted that Fury would be the next heavyweight king.

“He said that if you fight Wlad, you will win,” insists Tyson Fury. “Emanuel even said to Wladimir when I was there that I was the heir to his throne. He referred to me as the king in waiting. And here I am two years later, knocking on that door. So if he wants a fight, let's get it on. If not, put your title in the bin...vacate it.”
 
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