What is fair for fighter pay?

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The CORRECT answer is that no such thing as fair or deserve in the marketplace. That isn’t how economics work. It’s about market-forces and what can be negotiated.

A bunch of people will through out arbitrary figures that “sound right”. But they are giving real substantive answers they are just making stuff up.

That said there is an argument meant that the UFC has illegaly manipulated market forces through anti-competice practices. But there is much debate on whether or not this the case. No one knows answer at this point.

People don't ever get what they deserved. They get what they negotiate.

 

[2004 account]

Jon does make about $5 mil a fight. Jon has said this repeatedly, multiple times.

That's why I said give him up to 10 mil. He deserves that much. Not 30 though

 

[Athlas]

50% revenue share like NFL and NBA.
At the moment, the UFC only pays a disgraceful 18% of it's annual revenue to it's fighters.

 

[MikeyB]

3k to show 3k to win, duh

 

[chiefwiggum]

If you equate what people think what jones should be said. 3 women should make more than 50k a fight.

and nobody should ever make a million a fight ever.

 

[avenue94]

More than 20, maybe not 50 percent, but closer to that than 20. The issue is whether you want to increase wage level or wage share, because those benefit opposite ends of the fighter payscale. My personal semi practical solution would be halve the roster, establish a higher minimum and then bump up pay from the middle to the top. On a superfight card, fighter pay should significantly exceed promoter profit, just like boxing.

What do you mean usually? This isn’t NBA or NFL. Is that what it is in boxing? That’s the closest comparison.

Boxing headliners take about half to 2/3rds generally. Down the card it varies, but boxing purses and mma purses are roughly equivalent by decile/quartile, or mma is slightly better.

 

[TGArthur]

The CORRECT answer is that no such thing as fair or deserve in the marketplace. That isn’t how economics work. It’s about market-forces and what can be negotiated.

A bunch of people will through out arbitrary figures that “sound right”. But they are NOT giving real substantive answers they are just making stuff up.

That said there is an argument meant that the UFC has illegaly manipulated market forces through anti-competice practices. But there is much debate on whether or not this the case. No one knows answer at this point.

Great response

 

[chiefwiggum]

50% revenue share like NFL and NBA.
At the moment, the UFC only pays a disgraceful 18% of it's annual revenue to it's fighters.

and like they nba. As WNBA doesn’t make a profit they should be paid like that. I agree.

all good fighters should make a quality living the best should be millionaire many many time over. Woman are horrible at this so should be thankful just to be forced onto cards.

 

[kflo]

Ensure contracts are not overly restrictive, ensure business practices comply with the law and let the market decide from there. Oh, and watch more mma to give more power to the other orgs.

 

[JoshTehV]

Make fights to the death but the winner gets a huge purse.

winner gets everything the loser owns, because hes dead lol

 

[rodkek]

I see a lot of threads on fighters are not getting paid fairly, what exactly is your definition for fair fighter pay?

50k guarenteed at least. Sponsors still not allowed because they look lame on the shorts

 

[Prologue]

100% share.

Fighters need to seize the means of promotion.

Spoiler: Before any jimmies get rustled

I kid I kid

Spoiler: Or am I?

Spoiler

 

[acannxr]

what exactly is your definition for fair fighter pay?

50% of the profits.

 

[kflo]

50% revenue share like NFL and NBA.
At the moment, the UFC only pays a disgraceful 18% of it's annual revenue to it's fighters.

The yankees pay around 30% of revenue. They’d be foolish to pay a lot more. They are competing for talent with other teams that have a lot less revenue. The tigers pay like 70%. It’s not because the tigers are more generous than the yankees.

 

[po_thead]

3.50 %

Abou tree fiddy

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

Something that allows them to not have to have full-time jobs/part time jobs or resort to onlyfans to supplement their income?

A lot could have made some extra dough via sponsors but got that taken away with the pretense that they were going to be paid well with the sponsorship deals and the ufc wanted to be "legit" and on par with the other major sports (hence uniforms).

 

[Murder_KickHC]

Fighters need to stop crying about their pay and do something about it. The reason why Conor McGregor makes Infinite times more money than rest of the roster is because he doesnt just talk the talk but also walks the walk.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Usually 40-50% of net profit, where they only receive on average like 15-20%. UFC has also been flooding its roster with contender series cans rather than paying out to legitimate international prospects.

Not profit, revenue.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Ensure contracts are not overly restrictive, ensure business practices comply with the law and let the market decide from there. Oh, and watch more mma to give more power to the other orgs.

I'd say the only problem with that course is that the top level MMA market is only one or two companies. So 'let the market decide" doesn't really work well in such a situation.

 

[kflo]

I'd say the only problem with that course is that the top level MMA market is only one or two companies. So 'let the market decide" doesn't really work well in such a situation.

“Top level mma market” is where top level mma fighters fight. ONE, PFL, Bellator, rizin and other orgs all have fighters who can compete with top ufc fighters. If fighters can’t draw there, then those fighters aren’t the only thing that makes a draw.

Fans preferring the ufc for their mma doesn’t mean the ufc has to share all of that with the fighters. It may not seem fair but we, the fans, are part of the reason.