What is a globalist?

[IDL]

So do you actually read Foreign Affairs IDL?

If I wanted to see what Monsanto or Halliburton was really doing behind the scenes would I go to their web site for my answers?

 

[Ruprecht]

If I wanted to see what Monsanto was really doing would I go to their web site for my answers?

That's what I thought...

 

[IDL]

That's what I thought...

Right because if you want to know what they are doing behind the scenes you just go to their web site.

Makes sense.

Meanwhile, the world continues to globalize according to plan.

 

[Ruprecht]

Right because if you want to know what they are doing behind the scenes you just go to their web site.

Makes sense.

Meanwhile, the world continues to globalize according to plan.

If you had actually read anything published by the CFR you'd actually be demonstrably better informed on the topics we discuss.
Not to mention that the CFR analysts have their various factions, and for the most part are completely open about their various policy ideas and goals.
You can trace the rise to prominence of the Neocons like William Kristol or Max Boot, and the popularity of their ideas, from back in '96.
You can look historically at the analysis, the goals and their success or failure. Such as with George F. Kennan and the containment policy in regards to the Soviet Union.
Even book reviews that have policy implications. Such as for the recent best seller, Capital in the 21st Century reviewed by Tyler Cowen (who is moderately Libertarian and moonlights for CATO).
In fact not actually reading any of the material they put out is probably the only way you can believe they are some monolithic entity which runs the world.

 

[IDL]

Going to the front desk I have personally found is not the best way to find out what is going on in the back.

There is so much information on the world government agenda put out by thousands of different sources. I'm not sure if the CFR is up front about it. I'm sure there are bits and pieces that you could get from them though.

 

[Wolveswithkeys]

Going to the front desk I have personally found is not the best way to find out what is going on in the back.

Let me know when they talk about the world government agenda. Maybe they have, who knows. These institutions tend to prefer working behind closed doors.

Months and months you've been posting about your theory and amazingly you still haven't actually said anything. I've literally never seen this before. Ever.

 

[IDL]

Months and months you've been posting about your theory and amazingly you still haven't actually said anything. I've literally never seen this before. Ever.

You're the guy who won't read books or watch videos. Of course you haven't seen anything.

It's not my theory BTW. It is well developed by thousands of other people throughout history. I have just verified its accuracy and understand the pieces.

Google one world government, or new world order, and see how much comes up. There is an overwhelming amount of information to sift through.

Books, documentaries, documents, interviews, whistleblowers, you name it.

 

[Wolveswithkeys]

You're the guy who won't read books or watch videos. Of course you haven't seen anything.

Google one world government, or new world order, and see how much comes up. There is an overwhelming amount of information to sift through.

I've probably read more books in a few years than you've read in your entire life. I'm not a fan of youtube videos as "proof" or "research" though, I'll give you that one.

Googling NWO or One World Government and just going down the list of links is not the way to properly research and get accurate information. It's any wonder you have such outlandish ideas if that's what you take as fact.

I've never asked you for much on here when we debate. Actually usually I just ask you for Step 1 - identify your theory/stance. That's usually where you hit your first roadblock.

 

[IDL]

I've probably read more books in a few years than you've read in your entire life. I'm not a fan of youtube videos as "proof" or "research" though, I'll give you that one.

Googling NWO or One World Government and just going down the list of links is not the way to properly research and get accurate information. It's any wonder you have such outlandish ideas if that's what you take as fact.

I've never asked you for much on here when we debate. Actually usually I just ask you for Step 1 - identify your theory/stance. That's usually where you hit your first roadblock.

Most people go directly into the system to do 'proper research' and end up getting white washed material.

It's funny, when I was doing some research on this a friend of mine mentioned a university professor who was really good with certain historical periods. I got in touch with him and asked about some good sources for learning about the occult throughout history.

He sent me a book that was funded by the Rockefeller institute..

There was some interesting info in there but all the money connections were absent. Like an entire layer of the story was not there.

When researching topics that are actively covered up it is difficult to get the information you need through sources funded by the very system. It's hugely limiting.

There are some though. A Brave New World Revisited I learned a lot from. I haven't read Tragedy and Hope but that is a commonly referenced one as well.

Much of it can actually be gleaned from watching politics on a global scale, over time.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Going to the front desk I have personally found is not the best way to find out what is going on in the back.

There is so much information on the world government agenda put out by thousands of different sources. I'm not sure if the CFR is up front about it. I'm sure there are bits and pieces that you could get from them though.

So if you were writing an expose on Wal-Mart and its influence, would it be better to never go to the store, not know anything about its business, and not get any info other than what a few deranged lunatics blog about it?

 

[IDL]

So if you were writing an expose on Wal-Mart and its influence, would it be better to never go to the store, not know anything about its business, and not get any info other than what a few deranged lunatics blog about it?

It's interesting that you would use the term deranged lunatics and blogs. Very typical of someone who has no clue about the topic.

 

[Jukai]

It's interesting that you would use the term deranged lunatics and blogs. Very typical of someone who has no clue about the topic.

I'd be interesting in you answering JVS' question, good sir.

 

[IDL]

I'd be interesting in you answering JVS' question, good sir.

Ok, but just for you!

If I was doing an expose on Wal-Mart's ties with politicians and the moneyed powers I don't know how much info on that I could get from within the store itself.

It's always good to understand how chain grocery stores work, and how they fit into the economy and whatnot to provide context to general understanding though.

So it really depends on what aspect you are trying to detail.

In the comparison to the CFR it is but one of many pieces in the overall equation. It's important to know what its general purpose is but if I went to their front door and asked them about the world government plan I don't know how receptive they would be.

 

[Jukai]

I don't think JVS was talking about Walmart ties to politics.

He was just talking about doing an expose on Walmart. Wouldn't you go to their website, check out their PR, get THEIR side of the story and then compare it against the "alternative" viewpoint?

 

[IDL]

I don't think JVS was talking about Walmart ties to politics.

He was just talking about doing an expose on Walmart. Wouldn't you go to their website, check out their PR, get THEIR side of the story and then compare it against the "alternative" viewpoint?

Of course, but I don't see the relevance. I was trying to keep the analogy relevant to the discussion, which apparently has become about research methodology.

 

[Jukai]

Of course, but I don't see the relevance. I was trying to keep the analogy relevant to the discussion.

I think the point is that you're reading things on alternative media sites (which, reminder, are all for profit) but you've begin to stop actually researching the mainstream media view. When your posting style was less vague, this got you in trouble a bit.

 

[Wolveswithkeys]

Most people go directly into the system to do 'proper research' and end up getting white washed material.

It's funny, when I was doing some research on this a friend of mine mentioned a university professor who was really good with certain historical periods. I got in touch with him and asked about some good sources for learning about the occult throughout history.

He sent me a book that was funded by the Rockefeller institute..

There was some interesting info in there but all the money connections were absent. Like an entire layer of the story was not there.

When researching topics that are actively covered up it is difficult to get the information you need through sources funded by the very system. It's hugely limiting.

There are some though. A Brave New World Revisited I learned a lot from. I haven't read Tragedy and Hope but that is a commonly referenced one as well.

Much of it can actually be gleaned from watching politics on a global scale, over time.

Why don't you make your own thread on your theory? You do a lot of talking in other threads and I think that contributes to the disjointedness of it all. Put the time in to start your own thread with a well thought out OP that contains links and evidence to prove everything you always talk about.

 

[panamaican]

There are no globalists. It's just a term created by people to vilify the inevitable shrinking of the world.

As technology makes cross border communication easier, some people become frightened by the impacts on society. They term anyone with influence across more than one border a globalist.

It's no different than when this country was formed and all of the states assumed they'd be mostly autonomous governments for ever...until technology increased the amount of interstate travel and suddenly the centralized government had more power.

 

[IDL]

I think the point is that you're reading things on alternative media sites (which, reminder, are all for profit) but you've begin to stop actually researching the mainstream media view. When your posting style was less vague, this got you in trouble a bit.

I have found, through much experience, that for this subject the MSM is largely useless. It just is.

Books, documents, documentaries, other researchers, whistleblowers, etc really do fill in what the MSM hides from main stream society.

Once you see the historical and present day use of media and propaganda it makes much more sense. How it fits into the control structure and how it shapes peoples perceptions. It is used more to distract people and cover up corruption than it is to truly inform people.

Without taking the time to examine what is out there for yourself there is no way to know how complete the body of knowledge is. I've done my homework, and I can say without a shred of doubt that the world government agenda has been in the books for quite some time and it is steaming along quite nicely.

These globalist think tanks and groups operate on long term plans. It's all there.

 

[ncordless]

When I think of the term "globalist" I compare it to a "nationalist". Whereas the nationalist puts his country, or ethnic group ahead of the rest of the world, the globalist does the opposite.

I am a globalist in that I dislike the country-first way our world works, and believe it holds us back and will eventually have to go away in order for us to progress into a multi-planet species and/or deal with the inevitable interaction with alien species.