What is a globalist?

[IDL]

Just another word for Jews.

The term globalist in this context encapsulates all the major players including the Rockefellers, The Bush Family, and many other non Jewish people or families.

 

[Jukai]

LOL@The Bush family, the guy who ruined America's image, as a globalist who is supposed to bring everyone together.

 

[IDL]

LOL@The Bush family, the guy who ruined America's image, as a globalist who is supposed to bring everyone together.

It is more to do with the policies like the war on terror and the patriot act. They had political capital to spend and they spent wisely.
As far as the Bush family goes they are a very connected family with a very shady history. It's what goes on behind the scenes that is usually of more concern. As to how high they really rank I don't know.

But that's the beauty of rotating leadership. One guy can do all the damage in the world and the next guy gets a clean slate to start wrecking shop.

and by leadership I mean the face on TV, not the actual leadership.

And as far as America's image goes, they are not concerned about that.

 

[Jukai]

It is more to do with the policies like the war on terror and the patriot act. Selling those things isn't easy! Often it's more what goes on behind the scenes.

But that's the beauty of rotating leadership. One guy can do all the damage in the world and the next guy gets a clean slate to start wrecking shop.

and by leadership I mean the face on TV, not the actual leadership.

And as far as America's image goes, they are not concerned about that.

So, is the Bush family ACTUALLY globalists, or are they pawns for the globalists? You seem uncertain.

If anything, Karl Rove is the globalist. He is the one who said "I can make this man president." But then Karl Rove made an ass out of himself on Fox claiming that Romney was 100% going to get elected. So maybe Romney is also a globalist pawn but something went wrong and Obama stole the election...?

 

[kpt018]

Oh man, this thread is IDL's wet dream.

 

[IDL]

So, is the Bush family ACTUALLY globalists, or are they pawns for the globalists? You seem uncertain.

If anything, Karl Rove is the globalist. He is the one who said "I can make this man president." But then Karl Rove made an ass out of himself on Fox claiming that Romney was 100% going to get elected. So maybe Romney is also a globalist pawn but something went wrong and Obama stole the election...?

Yes I am unsure where the Bush Family lies in relation to the top.

They certainly qualify as globalists though, either way. They are certainly willing participants.

The election process is so full of theatrics that it is very difficult to determine what went on behind the scenes based on what was said on television.

 

[IDL]

A few organizations working towards globalization..

Council on Foreign Relations
International Monetary Fund
Bank for International Settlements
World Bank
Club of Rome
World Health Organization
World Trade Organization
Tavistock
United Nations
Committee of 300
European Union
Bilderberg

 

[Jukai]

Yes I am unsure where the Bush Family lies in relation to the top.

They certainly qualify as globalists though, either way. They are certainly willing participants.

The election process is so full of theatrics that it is very difficult to determine what went on behind the scenes based on what was said on television.

How do you tell the difference between a globalist an an idiot who just wants war because they tried to kill his daddy?

 

[IDL]

How do you tell the difference between a globalist an an idiot who just wants war because they tried to kill his daddy?

Someone working within the power structure at that level does not get free reign to start wars that would jeopardize much larger plans.

Even if he wanted to, it would have to align with the overall objectives. If it didn't, the more powerful members would veto.

No room for loose canons.

They are psychopaths. They are not ruled by emotions.

 

[ZroC]

A lot of the replies in this thread are stupid as fuck. Globalism is a real ideology centuries old, not just some conspiracy jargon.A lot of people might refer to themselves as a globalist, someone who cares more about the global agenda over national ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization

 

[Jack V Savage]

A lot of the replies in this thread are stupid as fuck. Globalism is a real ideology centuries old, not just some conspiracy jargon.A lot of people might refer to themselves as a globalist, someone who cares more about the global agenda over national ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization

No one disputes that something called "globalism" exists (and globalization certainly does, too, though they aren't the same things) and that it has real adherents, some with some power. But there is a difference between real globalism and nutter fantasy globalism. Just like the groups IDL cites--mostly real, but not what he believes that they are. For example, being a "member" of the CFR, mostly means you're on their mailing list, they hit you up for cash, and you get invited to boring functions. They do good work in terms of published analysis, but it's laughable to think that they're super powerful just because they have an impressive "member list."

 

[IDL]

A lot of the replies in this thread are stupid as fuck. Globalism is a real ideology centuries old, not just some conspiracy jargon.A lot of people might refer to themselves as a globalist, someone who cares more about the global agenda over national ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization

You could basically call it an anti-sovereignty movement.

It is all happening in accordance to long term strategic planning. People typically look at their elected officials as people who are pro sovereignty, but their job in the global power structure is actually to dismantle it.

 

[IDL]

No one disputes that something called "globalism" exists (and globalization certainly does, too, though they aren't the same things) and that it has real adherents, some with some power. But there is a difference between real globalism and nutter fantasy globalism. Just like the groups IDL cites--mostly real, but not what he believes that they are. For example, being a "member" of the CFR, mostly means you're on their mailing list, they hit you up for cash, and you get invited to boring functions. They do good work in terms of published analysis, but it's laughable to think that they're super powerful just because they have an impressive "member list."

Yes being a member doesn't mean you are part of the strategic planning committee. That interview I posted earlier actually talks about that. They invite influential people there but they don't tell them the full agenda. For those on the bottom it's just networking. String pulling, etc.

The people that call it fantasy are the people that have not sat down and really analyzed all the pieces.

 

[Jukai]

Someone working within the power structure at that level does not get free reign to start wars that would jeopardize much larger plans.

Even if he wanted to, it would have to align with the overall objectives. If it didn't, the more powerful members would veto.

No room for loose canons.

They are psychopaths. They are not ruled by emotions.

So you're saying every US president is a globalist? Why did you name the Bush and Clinton family then?

 

[IDL]

So you're saying every US president is a globalist? Why did you name the Bush and Clinton family then?

In recent times, yes. Just examples of names that come up that people tend to recognize.

I think it has been going on longer in the US than in Canada. The real globalization push in Canada started in the 70's under Pierre Trudeau. He was the PM that handed creation of Canada's money supply over to the private banking group and that is when the global agenda's really started moving.

All of our PM's since then have been puppets implementing the various global and regional initiatives.

I'd say the US lost its sovereignty much earlier in 1913.

 

[Jukai]

In recent times, yes. Just examples of names that come up that people tend to recognize.

I think it has been going on longer in the US than in Canada. The real globalization push in Canada started in the 70's under Pierre Trudeau. He was the PM that handed creation of Canada's money supply over to the private banking group and that is when the global agenda's really started moving.

All of our PM's since then have been puppets implementing the various global and regional initiatives.

I'd say the US lost its sovereignty much earlier in 1913.

Can you explain why Bill Clinton was so fervently against the WTO if he is a globalist?

 

[IDL]

Can you explain why Bill Clinton was so fervently against the WTO if he is a globalist?

What was the result? Politicians play their part. "Oh such a good effort, better luck next time"

I don't know what was going on in the mind of Clinton all I can say is he is an active participant in the various groups and so is Hillary.

 

[Jukai]

What was the result? Politicians play their part. "Oh such a good effort, better luck next time"

I don't know what was going on in the mind of Clinton all I can say is he is an active participant in the various groups and so is Hillary.

So you ignore all the times they fight against globalist groups and only focus on when they support globalist groups?

 

[IDL]

So you ignore all the times they fight against globalist groups and only focus on when they support globalist groups?

well, let's just pretend and say Clinton was really trying to stand up to the globalist groups. He failed. Nice try Bill. Then him and Hillary go back to the globalist groups and rub shoulders with them.

They are players in front of television and they are small in the grand scheme of things.

The true power lies far above them.

 

[Ruprecht]

So do you actually read Foreign Affairs IDL?