What in Wanderlei's striking got him to where he is?

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  1. TonyK

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    Seems like Wanderlei, for the better part of his career, did the exact opposite things from what boxing and muay thai coaches tell you to do, and still managed to outstrike, drop and even KO a quite high percentage of people. What do find in his striking technique/style that can be the cause for this?
     
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    A good chin and heavy hands.

    That's why he lost so much when his chin faded.
     
  3. ShaqAttaq

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    Brutality and an iron chin. The chin part was over once Hendo knocked him out.
     
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    His quick straight punches, his excellent footwork and the best head movement in the game. He is so unpredictable. You just never knew if he was gonna throw a right hand or a knee.

    Seriously, tho, I just think he scared people.
     
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  6. Magooglie

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    He fought a lot of smaller guys who barely had a chance with him.
     
  7. LampShade94

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    Killer instinct.

    When Wanderlei hurts or stuns his opponent, he's an expert at finishing the fight. He nearly always gets the finish when his oppenent gets in trouble.

    When he had a good chin, it was just a matter of time before he'd land a good strike and finish the job. Also, his cardio has always been good enough to capitalize on his opponents when they get hurt.

    Against the old Wanderlei, it was very hard to last 3 rounds with him without getting clipped once. And once you got clipped, it was usually GG.
     
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    shonuf Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    He has great punch placement. He aims for the chin a lot. He's very accurate.
     
  9. Perrichet

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    His chin and some of his opponents simply being poor
     
  10. LampShade94

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    Your join date is showing. I can tell you've only been watching MMA for a year lol.
     
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    Pretty much this. Whatever skill-wise, he really was fearless and had a genuine bloodlust.
     
  12. Ryan Phillipe

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    I would say it was his fearlessness, he would go in and swing for broke no matter who the opponent was. He was wild and threw wide haymaker punches and wasn't particularly fast but his fearlessness made it work. Even after being nearly murdered by Belfort and dropped by Tito, he never changed his style and that allowed him to for the most part overwhelm fighters that couldn't capitalize on his wildness and aggression.
     
  13. Wand4Life

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    Fighting is a mental game. Superior fighters can crumble if it gets to a heat they are not used to.

    Wand is excellent at turning up the heat and changing opponents gameplans into "dont get KTFO".

    Watch him against people bareknuckle in IVC. You literally see trained humans break and flee in sheer terror, curled up on the ground and screaming. A lot of people treat MMA like a sport, and those are the type of people Wand breaks, he turns a sport into real pain and consequences.
     
  14. Malas

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    Timing. Watch his first fight with Henderson.

    Also had great recovery and heavy hands. His cardio was always pretty good in PRIDE.
     
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    Wanderlei's most dangerous attribute was his ability to sense when his opponent for rocked or hurt in the least. From there he would overwhelm them until they either went out or the ref hauled him off. Seriously, killer instinct is something that can't be measured but you can certainly tell when someone's got it, and when someone lacks it.
     
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    Explain his wins over Rampage, Bisping, Cung Le, and Stann.
     
  17. genecop

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    Aggression, Power, Good Chin....
     
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    During his Pride run,
    He beat:

    1. UFC LHW Champ Rampage Jackson TWICE
    2. UFC MW AND LHW contender Dan Henderson
    3. UFC contender Yuki Kondo
    4. UFC HW tournament winner Kazushi Sakuraba
    5. ADCC champ and Top 3 LHW Ricardo Arona
    6. HW Kazuyuki Fujita (who UFC HALL OF FAMER Ken Shamrock had to call it quits against)
    7. Olympic judo GOLD medalist Hidehiko Yoshida

    And he had several other wins, with only a couple weak opponents.

    I love how Tito Ortiz's legend grows when he beats guys like Guy Mezger and Yuko Kondo.
    But when Wand beats the same guys, he's just over there fighting 'weak' competition.
     
  19. caesar

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    He actually fought Hendo twice, the first time Wanderlei beat him, your American hero didn't win that time lol, and in the Hunt fight apart from the 'overdramatic' Hunt butt first attack and some nice ground and pound for a short time, Silva controlled the takedowns for most of the fight, and should of won.

    Everyone in the crowd knew it, look at Hunt's face, he even thought it might of gone Silvas way.

    He also beat Cro Cop the first time they fought but for some reason they called it a draw lol what a joke.

    People only forget his losses but forget that he actually beat Hendo and Cro Cop in his prime, and both Mirko and Mark Hunt are heavyweights, Silva gave up a lot of weight to these guys.

    However, there was a stretch of time there in Pride when he was fighting tiny Japanese 'cans' where it was just obvious you knew it was going to be a beatdown, that is true, maybe 3 to 4 guys that had no business being in the ring with him, including Sakuraba, who was way smaller than Silva.

    But you can't blame the Japanese they tried to find any one of their own to dethrone Silva but it wasn't going to happen lol.
     
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  20. Kneeuinthenutz

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    What made Wand so effective was his power and his incredible hand speed. The hand speed started leaving right after his fight with Hunt.
     

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