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So I’m sitting here in a library and across the way and some girl is watching Laci Green videos and vlogs about how racist Trump is, and it got me thinking… What exactly do people think is going to happen if minority groups with notably different value sets than those we are used to in the Liberal Western world are no longer a minority? If we look at places around the world that these people often come from, where they are the majority and their values the norm we’ll see, all but across the board, regimes which by the standards of the Liberal West are *abhorrent*. From the many corners of Africa, to the Middle East, and many places in Asia, there are unchallenged laws and popularly and publicly held opinions that, in many of the countries we hail from, support of which would be immediate grounds for firing, social shaming, etc. Yet, paradoxically, we push multiculturalism and diversity as some of the greatest virtues of our society – so, I’m curious, what do Sherdoggers think is going to happen when those minority groups become the solid majority that controls policy?
This is the question for people on the left and right alike, though I think I have a pretty good idea about where you all stand. Flesh it out for us though – what do you expect to happen when the majority is composed of people representing cultures that, in their own countries, have enforced policies and widely hold views that many of you would immediately denounce your next door neighbors for support of.
Also, some food for thought..
“More than half of British Muslims (52%) think homosexuality should not be legal, and nearly half (47%) think it is not appropriate for gay people to teach in schools, according to a new survey of British Muslims.”
We must embrace other cultures and respect their ways - or must be quash such backwards views and impose our more enlightened culture upon the barbarians in concert with the ways of our colonialist heritage? Only once they have rejected their own core values and accepted our more correct ones will we have true diversity.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/index.html
“Muslims in Britain have zero tolerance towards homosexual acts compared to their counterparts in France and Germany, according to a survey published today.
The Gallup poll features the results of telephone and face-to-face interviews with Muslims and non-Muslims in the UK, France and Germany and is designed to measure global attitudes towards people from different faith traditions.”
Can we expect the values we have fought long and hard for to fall prey to the bigotry of the people we have, in our rush to not be bigots ourselves, allowed to build their pulpits and strongholds in our homelands? When their votes are the majority, what will they vote to make the standards of our land?
“The most dramatic contrast was found in attitudes towards homosexuality. None of the 500 British Muslims interviewed believed that homosexual acts were morally acceptable. 1,001 non-Muslim Britons were interviewed.”
Or can we expect their cultures to bend to what we deem acceptable through education in assimilation – and only when their backwards cultures bow to ours, as has been the way of elitist colonial mindsets throughout European history, will we be able to declare that “multiculturalism” has won?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality
"He said non-Muslims would be welcome to move into his project of prefabricated homes, but they would have to share the values of their Muslim neighbours.
“You don’t drive drunk on the street. If you want to drink alcohol, you drink it in your house,” he said. Women could choose whether to wear the headscarf but they could not walk around in a halter-top and shorts.
“There must be some modesty in the way you dress. We don’t want women living there going half-naked down the streets. We don’t like that,” he said. “If they want to do that, let them go and live in downtown Montreal.”
Will they form cloistered communities in which they will create replicas of their own countries, proudly espousing policies and philosophies that we would immediately denounce our neighbors as bigots for even hinting at? Diversity will be "letting their views that we find abhorrent thrive - just in that neighborhood over there" as they look out at us in the same way?
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/muslim-housing-development-proposed-for-montreal.3400043/
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...ontreal-is-discrimination-quebec-premier-says
Seriously, we're on the verge of whites in America becoming less than half the voter base, and if birth and immigration rates around the world are any indicator, the cultures that masterminded the enlightened, Western, Liberal democracies around the globe will be outnumbered in their own countries within our lifetime. What do the two deathly opposed sides of this see happening when your children and their children are growing old?
Also, just to be clear, while my examples are focusing on Muslims, this is not solely a Muslims VS the West phenomenon. Groups from all corners of the world will be knocking on your doors, not just from the Middle East.
This is the question for people on the left and right alike, though I think I have a pretty good idea about where you all stand. Flesh it out for us though – what do you expect to happen when the majority is composed of people representing cultures that, in their own countries, have enforced policies and widely hold views that many of you would immediately denounce your next door neighbors for support of.
Also, some food for thought..
“More than half of British Muslims (52%) think homosexuality should not be legal, and nearly half (47%) think it is not appropriate for gay people to teach in schools, according to a new survey of British Muslims.”
We must embrace other cultures and respect their ways - or must be quash such backwards views and impose our more enlightened culture upon the barbarians in concert with the ways of our colonialist heritage? Only once they have rejected their own core values and accepted our more correct ones will we have true diversity.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/index.html
“Muslims in Britain have zero tolerance towards homosexual acts compared to their counterparts in France and Germany, according to a survey published today.
The Gallup poll features the results of telephone and face-to-face interviews with Muslims and non-Muslims in the UK, France and Germany and is designed to measure global attitudes towards people from different faith traditions.”
Can we expect the values we have fought long and hard for to fall prey to the bigotry of the people we have, in our rush to not be bigots ourselves, allowed to build their pulpits and strongholds in our homelands? When their votes are the majority, what will they vote to make the standards of our land?
“The most dramatic contrast was found in attitudes towards homosexuality. None of the 500 British Muslims interviewed believed that homosexual acts were morally acceptable. 1,001 non-Muslim Britons were interviewed.”
Or can we expect their cultures to bend to what we deem acceptable through education in assimilation – and only when their backwards cultures bow to ours, as has been the way of elitist colonial mindsets throughout European history, will we be able to declare that “multiculturalism” has won?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality
"He said non-Muslims would be welcome to move into his project of prefabricated homes, but they would have to share the values of their Muslim neighbours.
“You don’t drive drunk on the street. If you want to drink alcohol, you drink it in your house,” he said. Women could choose whether to wear the headscarf but they could not walk around in a halter-top and shorts.
“There must be some modesty in the way you dress. We don’t want women living there going half-naked down the streets. We don’t like that,” he said. “If they want to do that, let them go and live in downtown Montreal.”
Will they form cloistered communities in which they will create replicas of their own countries, proudly espousing policies and philosophies that we would immediately denounce our neighbors as bigots for even hinting at? Diversity will be "letting their views that we find abhorrent thrive - just in that neighborhood over there" as they look out at us in the same way?
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/muslim-housing-development-proposed-for-montreal.3400043/
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...ontreal-is-discrimination-quebec-premier-says
Seriously, we're on the verge of whites in America becoming less than half the voter base, and if birth and immigration rates around the world are any indicator, the cultures that masterminded the enlightened, Western, Liberal democracies around the globe will be outnumbered in their own countries within our lifetime. What do the two deathly opposed sides of this see happening when your children and their children are growing old?
Also, just to be clear, while my examples are focusing on Muslims, this is not solely a Muslims VS the West phenomenon. Groups from all corners of the world will be knocking on your doors, not just from the Middle East.
